Saturday, March 5, 2011
Leslie Kean on MSNBC talks about IUFOC2011
I like the fact that Ms. Kean is able to talk about UFOs in a way where the reporter takes her seriously. Personally, I don't like the part where the reporter asks about "the absurd" parts of the conference. I was a bit surprised that Ms. Kean did not give any credibility to the people who say they've been abducted. I assumed she did support that side of it. However, I can understand why she did it. She even said it was to give credibility to just UFOs. It was also pretty cool when she said that the reason there is not much "concrete evidence" is because of the fact that the government won't discuss this topic.
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Presenter: Dr. Carol Rosin
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Dr. Carol Rosin speaks about The Outer Space Security & Development Treaty of 2011
12:33 PM Feb 24, 2011
Dr. Rosin is going to share a letter with everyone regarding disclosure. This lady is super cool. She has a lot of just LIFE experience in general and I can tell it defines and even bleeds over into her work. Very passionate and you can tell she's real.
She and her husband have been threatened and more for the work they have done over the years.
Part of her speech is about the state of the Earth and how we wage too much war. She has ties with Verner Von Braun and says he's a genius not necessarily a Nazi!! I've read that he WAS a Nazi and in the SS but I believe he proved himself by the marvelous things he did for the space race for the USA. VVB, on his death bed passed down knowledge to CR. PArt of today's info she will share with us now.
She also has ties with Buckminster Fuller who wrote a book called Spaceship Earth. A couple of times she mentioned mind control psychotronic weapons.
Her experience has involved working with HUGE companies where she had to testify before congress to confirm MX Missle stuff. And more!
The document is a treaty. It acknowledges little people and cosmic cultures (Ie; Space People). It's known as "The Outer Space Security Development Treaty". It establishes a framework from which all classes of weapons are banned in space.
She is also an Experiencer. She was told that she has a message to give by ETs. She says that none of the ETs are hostile. They said there are good ones and bad ones. Interestingly, they told her they were sorry for the ones who did traumatize people upon their abduction. Overall it's about a spiritual message. About raising consciousness. It's all about love. It's a grid. We are in a transition. None of the ETs are really hostile. CR said that it's important that we understand this. The treaty in question reaches out to all of us; Humans and ETs alike.
The treaty agreements are as follows: (I will not list ALL the points here but give you a link to the full treaty. I am covering the main points of the presentation) Create a weapons free space domain. There's a lot more but it's really about keeping weapons out of space. That we will use space for research and exploration of things for the betterment of humanity. Not only that but it's also built to stimulate the economy in differing ways. This is the what the war machine tries to call for. So it is possible to stimulate the space without weaponizing it.
Even though we live in a country with many material possessions and gains we still have people around the world who are suffering and it is time to stop. Personally, I've seen this message also via Peter Joseph & the Zeitgeist Movement.
Another treaty factor is we acknowledge that if we do nuclear testing that they can shut down our missiles. Also that the ETs have already proven that they have many times shut down our ICBM's for days at the time.
This treaty is not asking for a ban of weapons on earth. Its only for a ban on weapons in space.
Again, to read the whole thing, you can go to the OpenMinds.tv website.
UPDATE 3/7/2011: Dr. Rosin speaks on the Open Minds Radio show. Check it out!
Dr. Carol Rosin speaks about The Outer Space Security & Development Treaty of 2011
12:33 PM Feb 24, 2011
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| Paola Harris,Alec Brindell,Carol Rosin |
She and her husband have been threatened and more for the work they have done over the years.
Part of her speech is about the state of the Earth and how we wage too much war. She has ties with Verner Von Braun and says he's a genius not necessarily a Nazi!! I've read that he WAS a Nazi and in the SS but I believe he proved himself by the marvelous things he did for the space race for the USA. VVB, on his death bed passed down knowledge to CR. PArt of today's info she will share with us now.
She also has ties with Buckminster Fuller who wrote a book called Spaceship Earth. A couple of times she mentioned mind control psychotronic weapons.
Her experience has involved working with HUGE companies where she had to testify before congress to confirm MX Missle stuff. And more!
The document is a treaty. It acknowledges little people and cosmic cultures (Ie; Space People). It's known as "The Outer Space Security Development Treaty". It establishes a framework from which all classes of weapons are banned in space.
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| Dr. Carol Rosin |
The treaty agreements are as follows: (I will not list ALL the points here but give you a link to the full treaty. I am covering the main points of the presentation) Create a weapons free space domain. There's a lot more but it's really about keeping weapons out of space. That we will use space for research and exploration of things for the betterment of humanity. Not only that but it's also built to stimulate the economy in differing ways. This is the what the war machine tries to call for. So it is possible to stimulate the space without weaponizing it.
Even though we live in a country with many material possessions and gains we still have people around the world who are suffering and it is time to stop. Personally, I've seen this message also via Peter Joseph & the Zeitgeist Movement.
Another treaty factor is we acknowledge that if we do nuclear testing that they can shut down our missiles. Also that the ETs have already proven that they have many times shut down our ICBM's for days at the time.
This treaty is not asking for a ban of weapons on earth. Its only for a ban on weapons in space.
Again, to read the whole thing, you can go to the OpenMinds.tv website.
UPDATE 3/7/2011: Dr. Rosin speaks on the Open Minds Radio show. Check it out!
Monday, February 28, 2011
Presenter: Michael Schratt
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Michael Schratt(MS)
Michael's presentation covered an overview of some conversations he had with Dan Burisch regarding an alien he knew called J-ROD and his time in what was known as "Project Aquarius".
His presentation overall walked us through each level and as each level was shown to us, there was a whole new breadth of wild things you couldn't even make up in your wildest sci-fi dreams. Essentially, this facility was built underground with four very high-secure levels in order to ultimately get down to where this ET was being held captive. They also had ET craft there as well that has been confirmed by other people than just Dan Burisch.
Not only was the presentation focused on the building but this whole story was re-created by interviews with a major scientist(multiple degrees in Science & Psychology, etc) who worked there at the time, Dan Burisch. DB had interactions with the ET in the last level. DB said this ET was given a nickname of J-ROD. Unfortunately, I missed the meaning of the acronym but it had something to do with how they found him and what he looked like.
MS showed us a map of the area and explained that this area, in map terms called R4808n is aka Groom Lake and is "the most highly guarded airspace in the country". Many people call this area Dreamland. If any were to try to go over this airspace, the air force there is commanded to shoot them down. There is an INCREDIBLE radio show called Coast to Coast AM which is currently hosted by George Noory. There was a show once, when it was hosted by Art Bell where someone calls in, whose flying a prop-engine airplane, and flies over Area 51(Groom Lake/S4 exists within Area 51). This was one of my favorite shows. During the call Art tells the guy to turn around but the guy keeps going saying that the public has a right to know what's going on there. The guy tells art that the pilot in the jet that has been called out to catch him is trying to hail him on the radio. He then says the pilot will shoot and the even flashes his lights at him(didn't know jets had headlights). This call leaves you on the edge of your seat because just as he says the jet is about to fire something at him, the call cuts off! They really mean business at Area 51.
On with the presentation. The employees who work at these bases are just regular people who are actually bused and flown in from Las Vegas. Their jobs require them to be under constant surveillance and again, they cannot deviate from their ordered work area. They can also not fraternize in any way with other people who are not in their particular work group. They have to sit quietly and just do as they're required. MS said that on the airplane ride in to Groom Lake they play the song "They're Coming to America" as if to say the ETs are coming in to our country.
As I mentioned before, this is the same area, S4, where Bob Lazar purportedly worked. And this is the place where the famously coined UFO called the "Sport Model" was located. This was a UFO that Lazar worked on which he was able to give much detail as to how the craft was designed. MS told us that it had three levels. The bottom level had these three Gravity amplifiers that were essentially the propulsion chambers of the craft. These amplifiers used gravity is such a way to create a sort of bubble around that craft that made it fall forward, almost like the moon falls around the earth. The craft uses an element that, at that time did not exist. It was element 115 and when this element decayed, it created element 116 which created anti-matter and that formed it method of propulsion. Lazar said that he replaced a guy who died because he tried to open up one of these gravity amplifiers.
Michael Schratt(MS)
Michael's presentation covered an overview of some conversations he had with Dan Burisch regarding an alien he knew called J-ROD and his time in what was known as "Project Aquarius".
Similar to Bob lazar, Dan worked at "S4" located within the Area 51 military base and this is a testament to that experience.
To start, MS covered a little of the background of the base. The base had four levels that were all very secluded, top secret, and they were incredibly strict about gaining access to any one of the levels. For example, before anyone could enter one of the buildings, they had to completely undress, get weighed, then go forward. There were lines they had to follow as they moved from building to building and if they deviated at all from any one of the lines, they were in danger of being shot.
MS showed us a blueprint of the secret base based on the conversations with Mr. Burisch. He did a great job in creating a base upon which you could grasp what the environment would be like. Really great.
His presentation overall walked us through each level and as each level was shown to us, there was a whole new breadth of wild things you couldn't even make up in your wildest sci-fi dreams. Essentially, this facility was built underground with four very high-secure levels in order to ultimately get down to where this ET was being held captive. They also had ET craft there as well that has been confirmed by other people than just Dan Burisch.
Not only was the presentation focused on the building but this whole story was re-created by interviews with a major scientist(multiple degrees in Science & Psychology, etc) who worked there at the time, Dan Burisch. DB had interactions with the ET in the last level. DB said this ET was given a nickname of J-ROD. Unfortunately, I missed the meaning of the acronym but it had something to do with how they found him and what he looked like.
MS showed us a map of the area and explained that this area, in map terms called R4808n is aka Groom Lake and is "the most highly guarded airspace in the country". Many people call this area Dreamland. If any were to try to go over this airspace, the air force there is commanded to shoot them down. There is an INCREDIBLE radio show called Coast to Coast AM which is currently hosted by George Noory. There was a show once, when it was hosted by Art Bell where someone calls in, whose flying a prop-engine airplane, and flies over Area 51(Groom Lake/S4 exists within Area 51). This was one of my favorite shows. During the call Art tells the guy to turn around but the guy keeps going saying that the public has a right to know what's going on there. The guy tells art that the pilot in the jet that has been called out to catch him is trying to hail him on the radio. He then says the pilot will shoot and the even flashes his lights at him(didn't know jets had headlights). This call leaves you on the edge of your seat because just as he says the jet is about to fire something at him, the call cuts off! They really mean business at Area 51.
On with the presentation. The employees who work at these bases are just regular people who are actually bused and flown in from Las Vegas. Their jobs require them to be under constant surveillance and again, they cannot deviate from their ordered work area. They can also not fraternize in any way with other people who are not in their particular work group. They have to sit quietly and just do as they're required. MS said that on the airplane ride in to Groom Lake they play the song "They're Coming to America" as if to say the ETs are coming in to our country.
There were 5 programs that fell under Dan Burisch's experience. One of those programs was tending to the ET they held captive, J-ROD. J-Rod was one of three ETs found at a UFO crash in Kinsman, Arizona in 1954. One ET died upon impact, the other was taken to a different base (either Wright-Patterson or somewhere in DC.. missed this in presentation) and the third ET was taken to S4. Additionally, a device was retireived that was ultimately called "The Orion Cube". This cube was able to show anyone who handled it future events in to the near future.
Dan Burisch attended to J-ROD on a regular basis and one of his duties was to collect tissue samples from the J-ROD to help figure out and cure a strange genetic disease that had. J-ROD was housed inside of this large dome-like structure that was conditioned for him. On top were these bee-hive lights that were created so as to not emit any shadows. This was important because Dan Burisch had to be sure of the tissue samples he was taking upon contact with the J-ROD.
Upon each contact that Dan Burisch & J-ROD had with each, they had to do it in a certain way. An example was that they first had to wave once at each other then take one step forward. There was one time when the J-ROD apparently tripped on the grating and fell on top of Dan Burisch. When this happened, the J-ROD sent a massive amount of information into Dan Burisch's mind along with a peek into the near future. This had a very strong impact on Dan and from that moment forward started to feel some sort of connection with J-ROD. He knew that J-ROD had a home where he was from.
I don't remember the exact detail of how this moment happened but there was a moment when the J-ROD was getting much more ill and they built a sort of wheel-chair for him that was also conditioned. There was this ramp or something that,and this is where I get fuzzy but, at the end was the Orion Cube. Long story short, on this one occassion, Dan was puhing the wheel chair up the ramp and felt sorry for the J-ROD and felt an impulse to push him towards the cube's beam. The ending result was the J-ROD disappeared along with the wheel chair. Then, all of a sudden, the chair was almost pushed back onto the ramp and J-ROD was gone at that moment. Dan Burisch believes that he sent the J-ROD home by doing this.
This was the first presentation of the conference and what a great way to start! If you would like to read this story in its entirety with maps, blueprint, pictures, and EVERYTHING, you can do so by visiting the Open Minds website.
Dan Burisch attended to J-ROD on a regular basis and one of his duties was to collect tissue samples from the J-ROD to help figure out and cure a strange genetic disease that had. J-ROD was housed inside of this large dome-like structure that was conditioned for him. On top were these bee-hive lights that were created so as to not emit any shadows. This was important because Dan Burisch had to be sure of the tissue samples he was taking upon contact with the J-ROD.
Upon each contact that Dan Burisch & J-ROD had with each, they had to do it in a certain way. An example was that they first had to wave once at each other then take one step forward. There was one time when the J-ROD apparently tripped on the grating and fell on top of Dan Burisch. When this happened, the J-ROD sent a massive amount of information into Dan Burisch's mind along with a peek into the near future. This had a very strong impact on Dan and from that moment forward started to feel some sort of connection with J-ROD. He knew that J-ROD had a home where he was from.
I don't remember the exact detail of how this moment happened but there was a moment when the J-ROD was getting much more ill and they built a sort of wheel-chair for him that was also conditioned. There was this ramp or something that,and this is where I get fuzzy but, at the end was the Orion Cube. Long story short, on this one occassion, Dan was puhing the wheel chair up the ramp and felt sorry for the J-ROD and felt an impulse to push him towards the cube's beam. The ending result was the J-ROD disappeared along with the wheel chair. Then, all of a sudden, the chair was almost pushed back onto the ramp and J-ROD was gone at that moment. Dan Burisch believes that he sent the J-ROD home by doing this.
This was the first presentation of the conference and what a great way to start! If you would like to read this story in its entirety with maps, blueprint, pictures, and EVERYTHING, you can do so by visiting the Open Minds website.
UFO Kook Conference
Something I want to speak toward is the type of people at the conference. This being my first time, I had no idea what to expect. One of the things that went through my head was "what are the people going to be like at a UFO conference?". I think that's a valid question, right? Kooks or no kooks? Also, I wanted to let others who don't go to these things know what the people are like so that they can see for their selves.
Well, I have to say that 99.9% of the people I saw and met were completely normal and actually very nice. NO KOOKS. :) Personally, I felt honored at one point to be around so many nice people who were so open-minded and believed in something so incredible. This was around the last night that I was there at the banquet.
So, if you think people who go to UFO Conference are all crazy and crazy-looking, see for yourself.
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| Kathleen Marden & Stanton Friedman(Nuclear Physicist) |
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| MUFON Rep |
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| Me & Nancy Talbot |
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| Stan & Lisa Romanek |
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| Douser Dan(one of the vendor's who was really cool. Played the flute). |
Presenter: Hon. Paul Hellier
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Hon. Paul Hellyer Ex-Minister of Defence for Canada
www.victoryfortheworld.net
I do not know much from Paul Hellier so I am looking forward to this presentation. He used to be the Minister of Defence in Canada. I find this pretty cool because it shows that there are governments that are disposed to telling the truth about the UFO topic.
In the beginning of his presentation, he went into talking about ponzy schemes, bernie madeoff and the like. He says that even though this was illegal, there have been Kings and governments that have indeed lent the same money and charged a gig her interest on it in order to make more money off of it. Even when he was a boy, Canada had to keep a reserve of 8% in order to lend it out up to 12 times. This has increased dramactially even up to 21 + times. He continued on explaining about how money appears out of nowhere and how it's all a big, crazy game about how it just all snowballs and then ultimately gets really BAD. He said the banks turn the world into a big pawn shop. A world system where all money created is debt is a disaster in the making. This ultimately affects the little man.
HPH says that there are people who actually orchestrate these meltdowns on purpose. This proves, he says, that Wall Street is rotten to the core. Not only Wall Street but also the Rockefeller family.
So I'll break away from the details of this presentation and give you a link to the actual speech that the Hon. Paul Hellier read from. Additionally, I want to explain a little of what happened from here on a personal level.
So Mr. Hellier continues talking about how crummy the world is and how we really don't have out act together. I started to seriously question WHY he was talking about this stuff when he very cleverly brougth it right around to the UFO topic. I was blown away by what he said and I believe you will be too if you read the full PDF. Please do take the time to read this and PLEASE DO send it to someone else when you can.
He basically said that the governments of the world DO KNOW about the ET existence and they are watching what we do and how we handle things. Not only that but that we need to start NOW before its too late. With the technology that we could possibly obtain from these beings, we could bring the petroleum industry to its knees. We could live in a world where energy was limitless and cheap or FREE. As he was talking about this my mind really started pondering the possibilities of what mankind would be like in this type of a scenario. He also started there were ways NOW to use better sources of energy if we only stopped letting ourselves rely on these corrupt people. He said the change has to start from the common man. It will never happen from the top.
I would like to ask you to please do take the time to read the online version of his speech and I guarantee it will make a big impact on you too.
Hon. Paul Hellyer Ex-Minister of Defence for Canada
www.victoryfortheworld.net
I do not know much from Paul Hellier so I am looking forward to this presentation. He used to be the Minister of Defence in Canada. I find this pretty cool because it shows that there are governments that are disposed to telling the truth about the UFO topic.
In the beginning of his presentation, he went into talking about ponzy schemes, bernie madeoff and the like. He says that even though this was illegal, there have been Kings and governments that have indeed lent the same money and charged a gig her interest on it in order to make more money off of it. Even when he was a boy, Canada had to keep a reserve of 8% in order to lend it out up to 12 times. This has increased dramactially even up to 21 + times. He continued on explaining about how money appears out of nowhere and how it's all a big, crazy game about how it just all snowballs and then ultimately gets really BAD. He said the banks turn the world into a big pawn shop. A world system where all money created is debt is a disaster in the making. This ultimately affects the little man.
HPH says that there are people who actually orchestrate these meltdowns on purpose. This proves, he says, that Wall Street is rotten to the core. Not only Wall Street but also the Rockefeller family.
So I'll break away from the details of this presentation and give you a link to the actual speech that the Hon. Paul Hellier read from. Additionally, I want to explain a little of what happened from here on a personal level.
So Mr. Hellier continues talking about how crummy the world is and how we really don't have out act together. I started to seriously question WHY he was talking about this stuff when he very cleverly brougth it right around to the UFO topic. I was blown away by what he said and I believe you will be too if you read the full PDF. Please do take the time to read this and PLEASE DO send it to someone else when you can.
He basically said that the governments of the world DO KNOW about the ET existence and they are watching what we do and how we handle things. Not only that but that we need to start NOW before its too late. With the technology that we could possibly obtain from these beings, we could bring the petroleum industry to its knees. We could live in a world where energy was limitless and cheap or FREE. As he was talking about this my mind really started pondering the possibilities of what mankind would be like in this type of a scenario. He also started there were ways NOW to use better sources of energy if we only stopped letting ourselves rely on these corrupt people. He said the change has to start from the common man. It will never happen from the top.
I would like to ask you to please do take the time to read the online version of his speech and I guarantee it will make a big impact on you too.
Saturday, February 26, 2011
Presenter: Leslie Kean
Fort McDowell, Arizona
I've seen LK on Comedy Central before on John Stewart.
LK's approach to dealing with this topic is quite different because she's is very diplomatic. That means she knows there is a way you have to be in dealing with the higher ups when it comes to UFOs. She says you should approach them by saying that there things that people can't explain that are flying around the sky. I've heard people talking about this where they say something along the lines of "air defense". And this makes sense because the truth is.. there ARE things flying around yup there that we can't explain. There are some people who assert there are Unidentified things up there that are actually OUR craft.
She ace us an exampel of how a govt handled a UFO event. This event happened in Belgium. A colonel at the time was assigned to ID what these things were flying over there country. Most of the objects were triangular with red light in the center. This event was coined "The Belguim Wave". There were a plethora of witnesses. In one case, there were two police officers who followed a ship to a lake then it sent out a red light ball to the water. They also saw these windows/light panels. Then a second craft appeared. After these two police saw these, one of the guys went to a monastery. The ship was seen hovering above monastery. This scared the police officer.
There was another event where a man and his wife saw a ship and he flashed his lights at the ship. The ship turned towards him and then flashed its lights at the man. The ship then followed the people on their journey back home. Again, they pretty much panicked.
Because this was a wave, there were MANY binder books completely full of witness sightings. And because these sightings occurred among important military people, the govt was involved and investigated it fully and openly. Amazingly enough, after some time the people wanted to know where things were with the govt.'s investigation and believe it or not the govt held a press conference regaring the developments they had gained at that time. REALLY. And the extra cool part is they had hard data of these incredible jumps these ships made from 0 to who knows in velocity. This is great because that's exactly what we need.
LK then showed us a similar batch or WAVE in the US and how we handled it and it was WAY different. It goes without saying that we DIDNT handle it unless it was done internally. What a contrast. Why?
I've seen LK on Comedy Central before on John Stewart.
LK's approach to dealing with this topic is quite different because she's is very diplomatic. That means she knows there is a way you have to be in dealing with the higher ups when it comes to UFOs. She says you should approach them by saying that there things that people can't explain that are flying around the sky. I've heard people talking about this where they say something along the lines of "air defense". And this makes sense because the truth is.. there ARE things flying around yup there that we can't explain. There are some people who assert there are Unidentified things up there that are actually OUR craft.
She ace us an exampel of how a govt handled a UFO event. This event happened in Belgium. A colonel at the time was assigned to ID what these things were flying over there country. Most of the objects were triangular with red light in the center. This event was coined "The Belguim Wave". There were a plethora of witnesses. In one case, there were two police officers who followed a ship to a lake then it sent out a red light ball to the water. They also saw these windows/light panels. Then a second craft appeared. After these two police saw these, one of the guys went to a monastery. The ship was seen hovering above monastery. This scared the police officer.
There was another event where a man and his wife saw a ship and he flashed his lights at the ship. The ship turned towards him and then flashed its lights at the man. The ship then followed the people on their journey back home. Again, they pretty much panicked.
Because this was a wave, there were MANY binder books completely full of witness sightings. And because these sightings occurred among important military people, the govt was involved and investigated it fully and openly. Amazingly enough, after some time the people wanted to know where things were with the govt.'s investigation and believe it or not the govt held a press conference regaring the developments they had gained at that time. REALLY. And the extra cool part is they had hard data of these incredible jumps these ships made from 0 to who knows in velocity. This is great because that's exactly what we need.
LK then showed us a similar batch or WAVE in the US and how we handled it and it was WAY different. It goes without saying that we DIDNT handle it unless it was done internally. What a contrast. Why?
Presenter: Travis Walton
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Travis Walton(TW)
www.travis-walton.com
A movie was done about Travis Walton some time ago. Travis's story happened in 1975. He and his some coworkers had a job where they performed the duties of loggers. On the way back home , going through the forest, they encountered a light shining through the trees. As they got closer to it, it was unmistakeably a UFO. One of his bussies blurted that out as a type of reaction to what they say. Travis decided to go and walk up to it. His friends were yelling at him to not do it and come back. He got all the way up to it and all of a sudden was jolted by this light and thrown backwards some 10-20 feet or so. His friends said that by the way his body reacted during the theow that maybe he was dead. He did not respond at all. The guys took off out of fear then came back only to find that Travia disappeared. The guys then went to the police to report what had happened. The police obviously thought he was murdered. But the guys swore up and down that what they saw was true. There was an intense search done to find these guys. We're talking ATVs, helicopters, man-hunt side-by-side thing to find him. They scoured every inch of the area where the guys said they saw Travis get hit. The police were at the point of reeling these guys in as the primary suspects. That is until Travis made a phoen call to his family and was found some distance away from his own town, naked, scared, and freaked out.
Travis later recounted a story having been taken aboard a craft, waking up inside of it, and wandering aroudn that ship. He went into a room with something like a star map that filled the entire space and when he touched a button, the whole room's star orientation changed and he almost fell over.
A humanoid figure came into the room, escorted him out then put this mask on him that knocked him out. The interesting thing about this case, to me, is the part where the police searched everywhere for him and then he appeared. That's the evidence past that many people have a hard time dealing with. Of course, you have the types who think he faked the whole thing.
---The Presentation.
Travis started us off by showing us some clips from the movie, some actor interviews, then went into how reality was different from that of the movie.
He sid that they weren't at all tired when they were driving back home as in the movie. When they vamp upon the craft, he did approach it the same way as in the movie. He said that he just thought it wouldn't DO anything to him. He admits he was scared.
He showed us some pictues of the original crew, the truck they drove, the part of the state where it happened, a drawing of the ship. It said it was incredible as far as size. He said it looked PERFECT like a new corvette. He said it was metallic and glowing. IT was somooth like glass with a light that lit up everything and gave everything a sort of glow. There was a low, deep rumble that he could almost feel. He also said there were some really high-pitched notes that must have been close to out of range of human hearing. He said the ship started to get louder then started to move. IT scared him. He was in the process of backing up and touched a pile of log debris. He jumped behind that debris to go for cover as the ship was moving. He raised up from behind the log to run and then was hit. It was a stunning blow feeling. He said it felt numb. He then blacked out. His buddies said that a beam of light came out of the craft and hit him. Travis very adamantly says that he does not blame his friends for running like they did. He says they thought he was dead and it just made sense to try and protect themselves. Contrary to the movie, the guys did all go back to find Travis. In the movie, only the brother went back alone. Travis said it's silly that anyone would think the guys would stand there alone in that forest.
When the guys reported their story to the sheriff , the sheriff said he immediately believed them but many people thought it was just a cover story for some sort of foul play. TW said the guys were constantly being asked to tell the truth of what really happened. They even said they would take a polygraph test. Sure enough they did and they all passed. PEople were desperate to explain this away but evidence like this makes it impossible.
The first thing he recalls after being hit wit the beam was that he was very confused. He remembers approaching the craft. He was laying on a table.. raised surface. So he logically thought he was in a hospital. He had trouble breathing, couldn't get enough air. There was a light above him. He thought if he moved that would make the pai nworse. Besides, he thought he was at a hospital and did not want to move too much thinking the doctors would take care if him. He looked to his right and saw the face of something that did NOT look like a Doctor. He said the surge of fear gave him enough strength to move. Even though he was weak , his push was more like a nudge. TW says many people don't understand the degree of fear he was experiencing. This makes it difficult for people to understand why he did some of the things he did. When he rolled off the table, he staggered away from the beings. They came toward him. He fell back against a shelf or something. He grabbed something off it and tried to hit them. He was constantly screaming stuff and they eventually stopped coming at him. They had their backs to the doors. TW made the comment that these guys had ey e lids, pupils and such. He said they were looing at him in a disturbing kind of way that he will never forget. He said it was a detached sort of look that makes it hard to describe. He obviously is still touched by that experience. TW was thinning how he could fight past the to get through the door. They stopped, turned , and went out surprisingly to TW. TW walked out of the door, went down a passage way. He said it curved to the right very far down. He didn't know if he should run more or stay where he was already. HE came to a door, well what he thought was a door, and went through it. He showed us a drawing of the path he followed... well more like a floor plan. He found a round room with a chair in the middle with controls on it. He touched he controls but says they didn't seem to do anything. He did mention the part about the stay pattern again. It gave him vertigo. He was about to push another button when something caught his attention. The man looked exactly like a himan. He was wearing a blue uniform with a glass bubble-l;ike helmet. The man did not talk to him at all. The man too khim out of the craf into a big hangar. The hangar was huge with other craft in it. The man herded him out of this hangar to a smaller hallway. There was someone else there dressed like the first man. The other men did not have on a helmet. Travis attempted to talk to these people but they just did not respond to him whatsoever. They forced him over to a table. They put a mask on his face and he was knocked out. The drawing of these other people was very interesting. They looked just like us. They were very healthy-looking, white skin, long hair. When he woke up, he saw a craft just above his head. He said that the craft shot up so quickly that it amazed him that soemthing could move that fast without breaking the sound barrier. Turns out he was about 15 miles from the town where he lived.
At points TW seemed to almost have a hard time talking about some of this. Oddly enough, I got that same impression yesterday when I was talking to him about the fear part of his experience. Apparently, his beother died recently, like 3-4 days ago.
TW said the doctorss said he had Transitory Psychosis. He had a ton of tests, psychiatric tests and everything showed that he was perfectly normal. Drug screens came out negative as well. Then there was another acusation that he a hypnotist might have planted these ideas in his head. More or less the story aft wards was a huge mess. He did his best to tel the story and even wrote a book about the whole thing.
He said that the tress in the site where he was taken showed a very distrinct growth pattern. He showed a really cool graphic of a tree with 1975b marked in one of the rings and you could clearly see that the tree was developing wood fiber many more times. So the rings after 1975 grew at a much quicker rate.
TW says there were many attempts of people to try and cover this story up. ONe time a FED agent came in and was very aggressive and intimidating. He said he came in on behalf of forestry company. He wronte a confession and tried to make TW's brother sign it! Right around this time the copy of thte sheriff report went missing.
Even after his first book came out, then sold out, the publishing company wouldn't make anymore. He asked for his rights back and they said why would you want to do that when you've got some much more publishing life in it?!
Travis believes that people, in particular Phillip Klass, was used to put out disinformation over and over. In an interview, Phillip Klass said that why didn't the dry pine needles burn up in the area where the blast occurred. Personally, I find that absurd. We don't know anything about the ET technology so how does he know it's incendiary in any way?
A quote from him was "For those who believe no evidence is necessary. For those who do not no amount of evidence will ever be enough". (paraphrased)
I do believe TW's story and I can tell he's very sincere about what he's telling us. I have enjoyed his presentation.
Travis Walton(TW)
www.travis-walton.com
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| Alec Brindell & Travis Walton |
Travis later recounted a story having been taken aboard a craft, waking up inside of it, and wandering aroudn that ship. He went into a room with something like a star map that filled the entire space and when he touched a button, the whole room's star orientation changed and he almost fell over.
A humanoid figure came into the room, escorted him out then put this mask on him that knocked him out. The interesting thing about this case, to me, is the part where the police searched everywhere for him and then he appeared. That's the evidence past that many people have a hard time dealing with. Of course, you have the types who think he faked the whole thing.
---The Presentation.
Travis started us off by showing us some clips from the movie, some actor interviews, then went into how reality was different from that of the movie.
He sid that they weren't at all tired when they were driving back home as in the movie. When they vamp upon the craft, he did approach it the same way as in the movie. He said that he just thought it wouldn't DO anything to him. He admits he was scared.
He showed us some pictues of the original crew, the truck they drove, the part of the state where it happened, a drawing of the ship. It said it was incredible as far as size. He said it looked PERFECT like a new corvette. He said it was metallic and glowing. IT was somooth like glass with a light that lit up everything and gave everything a sort of glow. There was a low, deep rumble that he could almost feel. He also said there were some really high-pitched notes that must have been close to out of range of human hearing. He said the ship started to get louder then started to move. IT scared him. He was in the process of backing up and touched a pile of log debris. He jumped behind that debris to go for cover as the ship was moving. He raised up from behind the log to run and then was hit. It was a stunning blow feeling. He said it felt numb. He then blacked out. His buddies said that a beam of light came out of the craft and hit him. Travis very adamantly says that he does not blame his friends for running like they did. He says they thought he was dead and it just made sense to try and protect themselves. Contrary to the movie, the guys did all go back to find Travis. In the movie, only the brother went back alone. Travis said it's silly that anyone would think the guys would stand there alone in that forest.
When the guys reported their story to the sheriff , the sheriff said he immediately believed them but many people thought it was just a cover story for some sort of foul play. TW said the guys were constantly being asked to tell the truth of what really happened. They even said they would take a polygraph test. Sure enough they did and they all passed. PEople were desperate to explain this away but evidence like this makes it impossible.
The first thing he recalls after being hit wit the beam was that he was very confused. He remembers approaching the craft. He was laying on a table.. raised surface. So he logically thought he was in a hospital. He had trouble breathing, couldn't get enough air. There was a light above him. He thought if he moved that would make the pai nworse. Besides, he thought he was at a hospital and did not want to move too much thinking the doctors would take care if him. He looked to his right and saw the face of something that did NOT look like a Doctor. He said the surge of fear gave him enough strength to move. Even though he was weak , his push was more like a nudge. TW says many people don't understand the degree of fear he was experiencing. This makes it difficult for people to understand why he did some of the things he did. When he rolled off the table, he staggered away from the beings. They came toward him. He fell back against a shelf or something. He grabbed something off it and tried to hit them. He was constantly screaming stuff and they eventually stopped coming at him. They had their backs to the doors. TW made the comment that these guys had ey e lids, pupils and such. He said they were looing at him in a disturbing kind of way that he will never forget. He said it was a detached sort of look that makes it hard to describe. He obviously is still touched by that experience. TW was thinning how he could fight past the to get through the door. They stopped, turned , and went out surprisingly to TW. TW walked out of the door, went down a passage way. He said it curved to the right very far down. He didn't know if he should run more or stay where he was already. HE came to a door, well what he thought was a door, and went through it. He showed us a drawing of the path he followed... well more like a floor plan. He found a round room with a chair in the middle with controls on it. He touched he controls but says they didn't seem to do anything. He did mention the part about the stay pattern again. It gave him vertigo. He was about to push another button when something caught his attention. The man looked exactly like a himan. He was wearing a blue uniform with a glass bubble-l;ike helmet. The man did not talk to him at all. The man too khim out of the craf into a big hangar. The hangar was huge with other craft in it. The man herded him out of this hangar to a smaller hallway. There was someone else there dressed like the first man. The other men did not have on a helmet. Travis attempted to talk to these people but they just did not respond to him whatsoever. They forced him over to a table. They put a mask on his face and he was knocked out. The drawing of these other people was very interesting. They looked just like us. They were very healthy-looking, white skin, long hair. When he woke up, he saw a craft just above his head. He said that the craft shot up so quickly that it amazed him that soemthing could move that fast without breaking the sound barrier. Turns out he was about 15 miles from the town where he lived.
At points TW seemed to almost have a hard time talking about some of this. Oddly enough, I got that same impression yesterday when I was talking to him about the fear part of his experience. Apparently, his beother died recently, like 3-4 days ago.
TW said the doctorss said he had Transitory Psychosis. He had a ton of tests, psychiatric tests and everything showed that he was perfectly normal. Drug screens came out negative as well. Then there was another acusation that he a hypnotist might have planted these ideas in his head. More or less the story aft wards was a huge mess. He did his best to tel the story and even wrote a book about the whole thing.
He said that the tress in the site where he was taken showed a very distrinct growth pattern. He showed a really cool graphic of a tree with 1975b marked in one of the rings and you could clearly see that the tree was developing wood fiber many more times. So the rings after 1975 grew at a much quicker rate.
TW says there were many attempts of people to try and cover this story up. ONe time a FED agent came in and was very aggressive and intimidating. He said he came in on behalf of forestry company. He wronte a confession and tried to make TW's brother sign it! Right around this time the copy of thte sheriff report went missing.
Even after his first book came out, then sold out, the publishing company wouldn't make anymore. He asked for his rights back and they said why would you want to do that when you've got some much more publishing life in it?!
Travis believes that people, in particular Phillip Klass, was used to put out disinformation over and over. In an interview, Phillip Klass said that why didn't the dry pine needles burn up in the area where the blast occurred. Personally, I find that absurd. We don't know anything about the ET technology so how does he know it's incendiary in any way?
A quote from him was "For those who believe no evidence is necessary. For those who do not no amount of evidence will ever be enough". (paraphrased)
I do believe TW's story and I can tell he's very sincere about what he's telling us. I have enjoyed his presentation.
Presenter: Stanton Friedman
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Stan Friedman(SF) is a Nuclear Physicist. He has long been involved in proving that UFOs exist ever since the days of PRoject Blue Book in the 50s. Personally, I really admire him because despite the fact that other scientists shun this topic, he does not. He's very learned and well-spoken and I feel so re-assured listening to him speak. He's also very funny and witty and does a great job of mixing that into his talks. I mean, the guy is REALLY smart and is basically saying THIS EXISTS.
His lecture today is about Exposing Debunkers. I think his main argument is that the debunkers don't even bother taking the time to look at the evidence. They quickly give some reason why it's not real, call the believers crazy and that's it. SF says that it does exist and if they only took the time to look at the evidence they might be convinced as well. Powerful stuff.
There's a difference between a skeptic and a debunker. A skeptic says there's evidence to look at somewhere. A debunker says there is no evidence and there's no point in looking at it.
The Presentation----
SF says this is the biggest story of our lifetimes and hopefully one day somebody like the NY Times will break this story.
Debunkers ignore evidence. be flexible by coming up explanations of why it doesn't exist.
SF says there has been a long history of "debunkdom". They appear to be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to protect the world from the non-sense of UFOs. "Don't bother me with the facts, My minds made up" "If you can't attack the facts, attack the people". It's easy to be a debunker. Ie; Bill Nye the Science Guy. His wife is known to have said that Bill spends approx. 5 minutes before a debate of that type.
The claim is "No aliens are visiting Earth". A good case against this claim is the Betty & Barney Hill case. It's a very serious case of visitation with lots of evidence, physical evidence.
Dr. Susan Clancy wrote a book about alien visitations and unfortunately this book had a lot of false claims. Dr. Clancy says she's read everything and saw it on TV. For example, she talks about the Alligash Abductions and gets many of the points wrong like even number of abductees and such. Very basic things. This is an example of how people/media/what-have-you just take the word of someone because they have a Doctorate and they (the media) doesn't do any good background checks, etc of the information on their own.
SF shows us the famous drawing Betty Hill did of where her abductors were from. She drew this series of dots which were connected with dotted lines and straight lines. LAter, it was discovered these dots were stars in/near the Zeta Reticuli star system.
Enrico Fermi came up with a concept called "The Fermi Paradox". Fermi and his coleagues were talking about how it would be to colonize the galaxy. The paradox comes about when they ask the question if it's so easy, where are all the other beings? SF's answer is we don't know but the government knows something and they're not telling us. Some people say this paradox says nobody was coming here.
There's a book called "The Zeta Reticuli Incident". SF says this is no longer available but you can get it on the internet. Ebook torrent possibly? When I have time, I will come back to this post and add a link to the book when I find it out in the ether.
Another claim is Secrets cannot be kept. Seth Shostak of SETI says this. SF says this is ridiculous because EVERYONE keeps secrets. He gave specific examples of this. One example was how our govt has built all of these incredibly expensive spy planes and satellites are created without anyone knowing about it. Have gave another funny example of a document that took him 5 years to get form the Air Force that was almost completely redacted with the exception of 8 words.
Third Claim is that there is "No need to look at so called scientific studies". This points to what I mentioned at the top of this post. Again, Seth Shostak says this and does not check any of the facts that exist. Stan showed us a copy of a book called "The UFO Evidence" and another from Project Blue Book that at least shows there there were sightings and the end result was inconclusive. So at least there was SOMETHING they could look at and say ... "What is this and let's investigate more of it".
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a cosmologist employed bt the Air Force in the 50s was put in charge of PRoject Blue Book. During that time he, purportedly, was pressured to write that many of the sightings he investigated on behalf of the US Air Force were nothign more than swamp gas or other inexplicable naturally-occurring anomalies. Later in his life , Dr. Hynek did recant his claims and said that he did truly believe that UFOs were indeed real.
Another example SF gave was regarding the Condon Report. It was commissioned by the US Govt and did have a small percentage of sightings that were inconclusive but they did nothing about it or even attempted to explain it in some way.
Fourth Claim is "There is no physical evidence". SF says there is a lot of physical evidence. He showed an exampel of a ring left where there was believed to be a landed craft. They did an sample of the dirt, along with dirt taken from other places in the area that showed significant differences from each other. I know that this is a very common thing that even MUFON does is take samples and analyze them.
Fifth Claim is an "Interstellar Vehicle could not crash here". I've heard a cosmologist say this before. They think that if a UFO could get all the way from some far away place that there's no way they would actually crash. SF showed an example of an aircraft carrier that had planes on it and how the planes are GREAT in the air but crappy in WATER . And then how the carrier is great on the water but bad in the air.
Another claim is "Why don't they land on the White House lawn"? First off, the White House is a No-Fly Zone! I've always believed that the UFOs don't WANT to land on the WH lawn. SF just said the same thing.
Claim "No pictures can withstand examination". SF says "says who?" There are some good ones out there. Just because there are some bad pictures doesn't mean there aren't any good ones. He gives many examples of some pictures and even one that the the Govt of Brazil released.
SF says that he's sent debunkers data , after them having said that they needed data. Then the debukers still wouldn't even accept information from even the AirForce.
He gave examples from Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov where they just said stupid things where they made pronouncements without doing their homework.
Dr. Lawrence Krauss who speaks out very often against UFOs is a very smart guy but doesn't know anything about this topic. "Don't bother me wit hthe facts."
Rule: "If I can't attack the data, attack the people". It is common that these guys just simply attack the people who believe in this topic instead of keeping their responses to the data.
Robert Sheaffer is another debunker. Another smart guy but completely just ignored any evidence at all.
Rule: "There is no national security aspect to UFOs." SF showed another example of instead of BLACKED OUt data, whited out data that he again obtained from the document. Yet another example of where the govt is keeping a secret. Debunkers say this isn't a secret. !!
Dr. Doanld Menzel said "All non-explained sightings are from poor observers." What a maroon to say something like this. SF said all of his observations can be taken apart by a sophomore-level college student. SF came to respect Menzel after finding out some facts about him.
Carl Sagan was known to have even said some just very closed off statements that were obviously not backed by look at any of the evidence that exists. He also made some false statements regarding the Betty and Barney Hill case. Again, people took his word because he was a famous Scientist but he did not know the facts.
Seth Shostak is another person who absolutely refuses to read the facts and admits it. SF went into a thing about how silly the SETI program is because of the fact that the chances of an alien civilization probably isn't using radio any longer.
Paul Davies is a great astronomer and has written some interesting books that I've read(I read one) that talk about what life would be like after we make contact. However, he's completely oblivious to any of the information out there about this topic and regress to look at it. I knwo that in his book, Are We Alone? he states that he firmly does not believe that we are or have ever been visited.
Frank Drake came up with the Drake equation and SF very comically showed that we don't have any actual data for the equation because we don't actually know how long it takes for a civilization to grow.
So all-in-all I enjoyed his presentation. I get this sense of security actually by listening to him because I know that he is incredibly intelligent and knows his stuff. It's good to know that we have someone like him on our side and hope that he continues to fight and help this cause.
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| Kathleen Marden & Stanton Friedman |
His lecture today is about Exposing Debunkers. I think his main argument is that the debunkers don't even bother taking the time to look at the evidence. They quickly give some reason why it's not real, call the believers crazy and that's it. SF says that it does exist and if they only took the time to look at the evidence they might be convinced as well. Powerful stuff.
There's a difference between a skeptic and a debunker. A skeptic says there's evidence to look at somewhere. A debunker says there is no evidence and there's no point in looking at it.
The Presentation----
SF says this is the biggest story of our lifetimes and hopefully one day somebody like the NY Times will break this story.
Debunkers ignore evidence. be flexible by coming up explanations of why it doesn't exist.
SF says there has been a long history of "debunkdom". They appear to be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to protect the world from the non-sense of UFOs. "Don't bother me with the facts, My minds made up" "If you can't attack the facts, attack the people". It's easy to be a debunker. Ie; Bill Nye the Science Guy. His wife is known to have said that Bill spends approx. 5 minutes before a debate of that type.
The claim is "No aliens are visiting Earth". A good case against this claim is the Betty & Barney Hill case. It's a very serious case of visitation with lots of evidence, physical evidence.
Dr. Susan Clancy wrote a book about alien visitations and unfortunately this book had a lot of false claims. Dr. Clancy says she's read everything and saw it on TV. For example, she talks about the Alligash Abductions and gets many of the points wrong like even number of abductees and such. Very basic things. This is an example of how people/media/what-have-you just take the word of someone because they have a Doctorate and they (the media) doesn't do any good background checks, etc of the information on their own.
SF shows us the famous drawing Betty Hill did of where her abductors were from. She drew this series of dots which were connected with dotted lines and straight lines. LAter, it was discovered these dots were stars in/near the Zeta Reticuli star system.
Enrico Fermi came up with a concept called "The Fermi Paradox". Fermi and his coleagues were talking about how it would be to colonize the galaxy. The paradox comes about when they ask the question if it's so easy, where are all the other beings? SF's answer is we don't know but the government knows something and they're not telling us. Some people say this paradox says nobody was coming here.
There's a book called "The Zeta Reticuli Incident". SF says this is no longer available but you can get it on the internet. Ebook torrent possibly? When I have time, I will come back to this post and add a link to the book when I find it out in the ether.
Another claim is Secrets cannot be kept. Seth Shostak of SETI says this. SF says this is ridiculous because EVERYONE keeps secrets. He gave specific examples of this. One example was how our govt has built all of these incredibly expensive spy planes and satellites are created without anyone knowing about it. Have gave another funny example of a document that took him 5 years to get form the Air Force that was almost completely redacted with the exception of 8 words.
Third Claim is that there is "No need to look at so called scientific studies". This points to what I mentioned at the top of this post. Again, Seth Shostak says this and does not check any of the facts that exist. Stan showed us a copy of a book called "The UFO Evidence" and another from Project Blue Book that at least shows there there were sightings and the end result was inconclusive. So at least there was SOMETHING they could look at and say ... "What is this and let's investigate more of it".
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a cosmologist employed bt the Air Force in the 50s was put in charge of PRoject Blue Book. During that time he, purportedly, was pressured to write that many of the sightings he investigated on behalf of the US Air Force were nothign more than swamp gas or other inexplicable naturally-occurring anomalies. Later in his life , Dr. Hynek did recant his claims and said that he did truly believe that UFOs were indeed real.
Another example SF gave was regarding the Condon Report. It was commissioned by the US Govt and did have a small percentage of sightings that were inconclusive but they did nothing about it or even attempted to explain it in some way.
Fourth Claim is "There is no physical evidence". SF says there is a lot of physical evidence. He showed an exampel of a ring left where there was believed to be a landed craft. They did an sample of the dirt, along with dirt taken from other places in the area that showed significant differences from each other. I know that this is a very common thing that even MUFON does is take samples and analyze them.
Fifth Claim is an "Interstellar Vehicle could not crash here". I've heard a cosmologist say this before. They think that if a UFO could get all the way from some far away place that there's no way they would actually crash. SF showed an example of an aircraft carrier that had planes on it and how the planes are GREAT in the air but crappy in WATER . And then how the carrier is great on the water but bad in the air.
Another claim is "Why don't they land on the White House lawn"? First off, the White House is a No-Fly Zone! I've always believed that the UFOs don't WANT to land on the WH lawn. SF just said the same thing.
Claim "No pictures can withstand examination". SF says "says who?" There are some good ones out there. Just because there are some bad pictures doesn't mean there aren't any good ones. He gives many examples of some pictures and even one that the the Govt of Brazil released.
SF says that he's sent debunkers data , after them having said that they needed data. Then the debukers still wouldn't even accept information from even the AirForce.
He gave examples from Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov where they just said stupid things where they made pronouncements without doing their homework.
Dr. Lawrence Krauss who speaks out very often against UFOs is a very smart guy but doesn't know anything about this topic. "Don't bother me wit hthe facts."
Rule: "If I can't attack the data, attack the people". It is common that these guys just simply attack the people who believe in this topic instead of keeping their responses to the data.
Robert Sheaffer is another debunker. Another smart guy but completely just ignored any evidence at all.
Rule: "There is no national security aspect to UFOs." SF showed another example of instead of BLACKED OUt data, whited out data that he again obtained from the document. Yet another example of where the govt is keeping a secret. Debunkers say this isn't a secret. !!
Dr. Doanld Menzel said "All non-explained sightings are from poor observers." What a maroon to say something like this. SF said all of his observations can be taken apart by a sophomore-level college student. SF came to respect Menzel after finding out some facts about him.
Carl Sagan was known to have even said some just very closed off statements that were obviously not backed by look at any of the evidence that exists. He also made some false statements regarding the Betty and Barney Hill case. Again, people took his word because he was a famous Scientist but he did not know the facts.
Seth Shostak is another person who absolutely refuses to read the facts and admits it. SF went into a thing about how silly the SETI program is because of the fact that the chances of an alien civilization probably isn't using radio any longer.
Paul Davies is a great astronomer and has written some interesting books that I've read(I read one) that talk about what life would be like after we make contact. However, he's completely oblivious to any of the information out there about this topic and regress to look at it. I knwo that in his book, Are We Alone? he states that he firmly does not believe that we are or have ever been visited.
Frank Drake came up with the Drake equation and SF very comically showed that we don't have any actual data for the equation because we don't actually know how long it takes for a civilization to grow.
So all-in-all I enjoyed his presentation. I get this sense of security actually by listening to him because I know that he is incredibly intelligent and knows his stuff. It's good to know that we have someone like him on our side and hope that he continues to fight and help this cause.
Presenter: Jim Marrs
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Jim Marrs(JM).
His topic is on remote vie wining and aliens. He started the presentation by talking about some of the experiments in the US Govt where they used people who were psychic. This reminds me of that movie Mean Who Stare At Goats. I don't mean to discredit his presentation, mind you.
It is true , however, that the government did do this. They had a remote vie wining headquarters. And even though the "headquarters" was a shacky-looking old house, it actually had all sorts of technology built in there. He said the house had all these psychedelic posters and such in it.
JM started to speak towards how we live in an energy field. The remote viewers believed that what they would come up with was part of the great energy field of the universe that we are all connected to. So, for example, a tree is made up of that same energy.
The remote viewing process is oen of selection. So as the remote viewer saw something, his/her interviewers would ask them a series of questions for the purpose of zeroing in to a particular location on the planet.
Oddly enough, JM had written a book on this , with all sorts of sensitive material, and the book was cancelled from out of nowhere.
Some of the remote vie wining names were like Grill Flame, Center LAne, Eahle Claw, Dragoon Absorb, Sunstreak, and stargate.
One of the things they found out about Remote Viewing is there is no limit of time or space. That means you can go backhand forth in time/space. It's limitless. Ingo Swann is a famous remote viewer who viewed Jupiter and it turned out later that what he came up with was verified when Voayager I came back with its data.
Jim gave us an example of a time when he was assigned a story on transcendental meditation. Turns out he was g iven the class so he could learn about more. He was skeptical but he was raised a baptsist. He just wanted to report on it. Turns out that at one point, he remote viewed , and drew out a floor plan of what he thought was the headquarters of that place. Well, he ended up being wrong. He gave them the drawing and forgot about it. Later on, he found out that they did move to a bigger location and his drawing was exactly the same.
JM gave us an example of where a group of people got some remote viewers together and examined the 1940s UFO Crash in Aztec, NM. In particular, the remote viewer told a story of a ship that crashed. Military types rushed in and gathered 16 bodies. They tried to communicate with them but could not. The entities were then executed. Welcome to Earth!
JM has written a couple of books. In particular one called Alien Agenda which is one of the top-selling non-fiction books in the UFO genre. You can learn more about Jim at www.jimmarrs.com
Jim Marrs(JM).
His topic is on remote vie wining and aliens. He started the presentation by talking about some of the experiments in the US Govt where they used people who were psychic. This reminds me of that movie Mean Who Stare At Goats. I don't mean to discredit his presentation, mind you.
It is true , however, that the government did do this. They had a remote vie wining headquarters. And even though the "headquarters" was a shacky-looking old house, it actually had all sorts of technology built in there. He said the house had all these psychedelic posters and such in it.
JM started to speak towards how we live in an energy field. The remote viewers believed that what they would come up with was part of the great energy field of the universe that we are all connected to. So, for example, a tree is made up of that same energy.
The remote viewing process is oen of selection. So as the remote viewer saw something, his/her interviewers would ask them a series of questions for the purpose of zeroing in to a particular location on the planet.
Oddly enough, JM had written a book on this , with all sorts of sensitive material, and the book was cancelled from out of nowhere.
Some of the remote vie wining names were like Grill Flame, Center LAne, Eahle Claw, Dragoon Absorb, Sunstreak, and stargate.
One of the things they found out about Remote Viewing is there is no limit of time or space. That means you can go backhand forth in time/space. It's limitless. Ingo Swann is a famous remote viewer who viewed Jupiter and it turned out later that what he came up with was verified when Voayager I came back with its data.
Jim gave us an example of a time when he was assigned a story on transcendental meditation. Turns out he was g iven the class so he could learn about more. He was skeptical but he was raised a baptsist. He just wanted to report on it. Turns out that at one point, he remote viewed , and drew out a floor plan of what he thought was the headquarters of that place. Well, he ended up being wrong. He gave them the drawing and forgot about it. Later on, he found out that they did move to a bigger location and his drawing was exactly the same.
JM gave us an example of where a group of people got some remote viewers together and examined the 1940s UFO Crash in Aztec, NM. In particular, the remote viewer told a story of a ship that crashed. Military types rushed in and gathered 16 bodies. They tried to communicate with them but could not. The entities were then executed. Welcome to Earth!
JM has written a couple of books. In particular one called Alien Agenda which is one of the top-selling non-fiction books in the UFO genre. You can learn more about Jim at www.jimmarrs.com
Friday, February 25, 2011
Presenter: Linda M Howe
Fort McDowell, Arizona
www.earthfiles.com
Linda Moulton Howe(LMH) has been reporting about these sort of phenomena for a very long time. I think it's quite an honor to finally see her speak. I evern got to take a picture with her. She's a very kind lady and has seen some incredible stuff in her lifetime. One area that she's done a lot of investigation into has been Animal Mutilation. You can google or youtube her name and listen to a TON of cases where sheriffs, farmers , what-have-you all tell you about how nothing human could have caused these things.
Today, she's going to talk to us about the experiences at RAF Bentwaters in the United Kingdom. This is an event where, on an American Military base, in the UK several US soldiers personally observed some sort of craft scanning the area. By the way, this was a Nuclear Facility that housed Nuclear Missiles. Someone spotted lights and they sent a patrol out to investigate. The investigating head officer in command, took a notepad and a tape recorder with him. Arriving at the scene, they found a triangular , small-sized craft that was just hovering in one spot and did not move when the men approached it. The officer took notes and drew his version of some symbols that were on the side of this craft. Needless to say, this story ended up becoming a pretty big deal but only years later after these guys decided to come out with their experiences.
LMH is introducing now a couple of the guys who have come forward with their experiences. The two were John Burroughs and James Penniston, both soldiers at the time of the 1984 encounter(s). I use multiple because they had more than one encounter. LMH took John back to the UK some thirty years later to help him remember the details of the incident. You see, he was not able to remember the ENTIRE episode. Another part of this return was to also do a hypnotic regression with John in hope that he'll be able to remember everything that happened. She showed us a video of him recounting what happened on the scene with a video camera taping what he had to say.
He basically said he and his peers were really freaked out when they saw this thing and wanted to get the heck out of there. They even called in the thing a UFO over the radio back to the other people at the base. They realized this was a mistake because they were weird lights they could not explain. Remember, these guys first saw the weird lights BEFORE they saw the triangle.
There was another soldier, Col James Halt who was involved as well. Without going into all of the details, the three of them went back the second night because they "felt" they needed to. Col Halt, after that night believed this whole thing to be a "Desperate genetic mission" of these light-based life forms.
After this second night, some other soldiers saw another light. In short, this light DISABLED the nukes there. The crazy thing here is this is a common theme as I have mentioned in other posts from this conference. LMH played a series of audio and videos that proved her case. A few of the videos were of the soldiers recounting that night under hypnosis. It was obvious they were very scared during the experience. Burroughs was actually abducted and he and his partner lost radio contact for 45 minutes while their peers at the base saw nothing but a series of various-colored lights jumping around the area they had been located in.
It turns out that James Penniston, when he touched the triangle craft at one point, had a flow of binary- 1s and 0s flow into his head all at once very quickly. Under hypnosis, he "translated" what the message meant. Apparently, this contact was actually from US, human beings. Us, from 40,000 years in the future needed something to do with Chromosomes. However, they did not want to have anything to do with Penniston. It's just that when they approached the craft and touched the symbols, he activated the binary code. The ship was apparently repairing itself and needed a place to do that. To me, this explains why the ship just sat there as they approached it. It was repairing itself.
Penniston later wrote the binary code down on paper to sort of get it out his head. The code has since then been decoded. It starts off with "exploration of humanity three times and some number". The crazy thing is they were able to decipher that this code ended up being a location coordinate to the original location where they found this craft. So basically, this ship seems to have been sent here to explore us and advance civilization.
Jim Penniston got up on stage and someone asked him what it was like dealing with the code in his head. He said "The next day, I thought I could actually write all of it down so I did and 13 pages later there it was. Afterward, I felt 500% better. I didn't dare tell anyone that I had that stuff in my head as I didn't want to lose my job. "
All in all, I can tell very clearly that LMH is, at heart, a true journalist. She is very thorough with the presentation of the information. She's also REALLY good at piecing this whole messy story together and I have really enjoyed this recounting and appreciate her hard work in bringing this to me.
www.earthfiles.com
Today, she's going to talk to us about the experiences at RAF Bentwaters in the United Kingdom. This is an event where, on an American Military base, in the UK several US soldiers personally observed some sort of craft scanning the area. By the way, this was a Nuclear Facility that housed Nuclear Missiles. Someone spotted lights and they sent a patrol out to investigate. The investigating head officer in command, took a notepad and a tape recorder with him. Arriving at the scene, they found a triangular , small-sized craft that was just hovering in one spot and did not move when the men approached it. The officer took notes and drew his version of some symbols that were on the side of this craft. Needless to say, this story ended up becoming a pretty big deal but only years later after these guys decided to come out with their experiences.
LMH is introducing now a couple of the guys who have come forward with their experiences. The two were John Burroughs and James Penniston, both soldiers at the time of the 1984 encounter(s). I use multiple because they had more than one encounter. LMH took John back to the UK some thirty years later to help him remember the details of the incident. You see, he was not able to remember the ENTIRE episode. Another part of this return was to also do a hypnotic regression with John in hope that he'll be able to remember everything that happened. She showed us a video of him recounting what happened on the scene with a video camera taping what he had to say.
He basically said he and his peers were really freaked out when they saw this thing and wanted to get the heck out of there. They even called in the thing a UFO over the radio back to the other people at the base. They realized this was a mistake because they were weird lights they could not explain. Remember, these guys first saw the weird lights BEFORE they saw the triangle.
There was another soldier, Col James Halt who was involved as well. Without going into all of the details, the three of them went back the second night because they "felt" they needed to. Col Halt, after that night believed this whole thing to be a "Desperate genetic mission" of these light-based life forms.
After this second night, some other soldiers saw another light. In short, this light DISABLED the nukes there. The crazy thing here is this is a common theme as I have mentioned in other posts from this conference. LMH played a series of audio and videos that proved her case. A few of the videos were of the soldiers recounting that night under hypnosis. It was obvious they were very scared during the experience. Burroughs was actually abducted and he and his partner lost radio contact for 45 minutes while their peers at the base saw nothing but a series of various-colored lights jumping around the area they had been located in.
It turns out that James Penniston, when he touched the triangle craft at one point, had a flow of binary- 1s and 0s flow into his head all at once very quickly. Under hypnosis, he "translated" what the message meant. Apparently, this contact was actually from US, human beings. Us, from 40,000 years in the future needed something to do with Chromosomes. However, they did not want to have anything to do with Penniston. It's just that when they approached the craft and touched the symbols, he activated the binary code. The ship was apparently repairing itself and needed a place to do that. To me, this explains why the ship just sat there as they approached it. It was repairing itself.
Penniston later wrote the binary code down on paper to sort of get it out his head. The code has since then been decoded. It starts off with "exploration of humanity three times and some number". The crazy thing is they were able to decipher that this code ended up being a location coordinate to the original location where they found this craft. So basically, this ship seems to have been sent here to explore us and advance civilization.
Jim Penniston got up on stage and someone asked him what it was like dealing with the code in his head. He said "The next day, I thought I could actually write all of it down so I did and 13 pages later there it was. Afterward, I felt 500% better. I didn't dare tell anyone that I had that stuff in my head as I didn't want to lose my job. "
All in all, I can tell very clearly that LMH is, at heart, a true journalist. She is very thorough with the presentation of the information. She's also REALLY good at piecing this whole messy story together and I have really enjoyed this recounting and appreciate her hard work in bringing this to me.
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