Saturday, March 5, 2011
Leslie Kean on MSNBC talks about IUFOC2011
I like the fact that Ms. Kean is able to talk about UFOs in a way where the reporter takes her seriously. Personally, I don't like the part where the reporter asks about "the absurd" parts of the conference. I was a bit surprised that Ms. Kean did not give any credibility to the people who say they've been abducted. I assumed she did support that side of it. However, I can understand why she did it. She even said it was to give credibility to just UFOs. It was also pretty cool when she said that the reason there is not much "concrete evidence" is because of the fact that the government won't discuss this topic.
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Presenter: Dr. Carol Rosin
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Dr. Carol Rosin speaks about The Outer Space Security & Development Treaty of 2011
12:33 PM Feb 24, 2011
Dr. Rosin is going to share a letter with everyone regarding disclosure. This lady is super cool. She has a lot of just LIFE experience in general and I can tell it defines and even bleeds over into her work. Very passionate and you can tell she's real.
She and her husband have been threatened and more for the work they have done over the years.
Part of her speech is about the state of the Earth and how we wage too much war. She has ties with Verner Von Braun and says he's a genius not necessarily a Nazi!! I've read that he WAS a Nazi and in the SS but I believe he proved himself by the marvelous things he did for the space race for the USA. VVB, on his death bed passed down knowledge to CR. PArt of today's info she will share with us now.
She also has ties with Buckminster Fuller who wrote a book called Spaceship Earth. A couple of times she mentioned mind control psychotronic weapons.
Her experience has involved working with HUGE companies where she had to testify before congress to confirm MX Missle stuff. And more!
The document is a treaty. It acknowledges little people and cosmic cultures (Ie; Space People). It's known as "The Outer Space Security Development Treaty". It establishes a framework from which all classes of weapons are banned in space.
She is also an Experiencer. She was told that she has a message to give by ETs. She says that none of the ETs are hostile. They said there are good ones and bad ones. Interestingly, they told her they were sorry for the ones who did traumatize people upon their abduction. Overall it's about a spiritual message. About raising consciousness. It's all about love. It's a grid. We are in a transition. None of the ETs are really hostile. CR said that it's important that we understand this. The treaty in question reaches out to all of us; Humans and ETs alike.
The treaty agreements are as follows: (I will not list ALL the points here but give you a link to the full treaty. I am covering the main points of the presentation) Create a weapons free space domain. There's a lot more but it's really about keeping weapons out of space. That we will use space for research and exploration of things for the betterment of humanity. Not only that but it's also built to stimulate the economy in differing ways. This is the what the war machine tries to call for. So it is possible to stimulate the space without weaponizing it.
Even though we live in a country with many material possessions and gains we still have people around the world who are suffering and it is time to stop. Personally, I've seen this message also via Peter Joseph & the Zeitgeist Movement.
Another treaty factor is we acknowledge that if we do nuclear testing that they can shut down our missiles. Also that the ETs have already proven that they have many times shut down our ICBM's for days at the time.
This treaty is not asking for a ban of weapons on earth. Its only for a ban on weapons in space.
Again, to read the whole thing, you can go to the OpenMinds.tv website.
UPDATE 3/7/2011: Dr. Rosin speaks on the Open Minds Radio show. Check it out!
Dr. Carol Rosin speaks about The Outer Space Security & Development Treaty of 2011
12:33 PM Feb 24, 2011
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| Paola Harris,Alec Brindell,Carol Rosin |
She and her husband have been threatened and more for the work they have done over the years.
Part of her speech is about the state of the Earth and how we wage too much war. She has ties with Verner Von Braun and says he's a genius not necessarily a Nazi!! I've read that he WAS a Nazi and in the SS but I believe he proved himself by the marvelous things he did for the space race for the USA. VVB, on his death bed passed down knowledge to CR. PArt of today's info she will share with us now.
She also has ties with Buckminster Fuller who wrote a book called Spaceship Earth. A couple of times she mentioned mind control psychotronic weapons.
Her experience has involved working with HUGE companies where she had to testify before congress to confirm MX Missle stuff. And more!
The document is a treaty. It acknowledges little people and cosmic cultures (Ie; Space People). It's known as "The Outer Space Security Development Treaty". It establishes a framework from which all classes of weapons are banned in space.
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| Dr. Carol Rosin |
The treaty agreements are as follows: (I will not list ALL the points here but give you a link to the full treaty. I am covering the main points of the presentation) Create a weapons free space domain. There's a lot more but it's really about keeping weapons out of space. That we will use space for research and exploration of things for the betterment of humanity. Not only that but it's also built to stimulate the economy in differing ways. This is the what the war machine tries to call for. So it is possible to stimulate the space without weaponizing it.
Even though we live in a country with many material possessions and gains we still have people around the world who are suffering and it is time to stop. Personally, I've seen this message also via Peter Joseph & the Zeitgeist Movement.
Another treaty factor is we acknowledge that if we do nuclear testing that they can shut down our missiles. Also that the ETs have already proven that they have many times shut down our ICBM's for days at the time.
This treaty is not asking for a ban of weapons on earth. Its only for a ban on weapons in space.
Again, to read the whole thing, you can go to the OpenMinds.tv website.
UPDATE 3/7/2011: Dr. Rosin speaks on the Open Minds Radio show. Check it out!
Monday, February 28, 2011
Presenter: Michael Schratt
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Michael Schratt(MS)
Michael's presentation covered an overview of some conversations he had with Dan Burisch regarding an alien he knew called J-ROD and his time in what was known as "Project Aquarius".
His presentation overall walked us through each level and as each level was shown to us, there was a whole new breadth of wild things you couldn't even make up in your wildest sci-fi dreams. Essentially, this facility was built underground with four very high-secure levels in order to ultimately get down to where this ET was being held captive. They also had ET craft there as well that has been confirmed by other people than just Dan Burisch.
Not only was the presentation focused on the building but this whole story was re-created by interviews with a major scientist(multiple degrees in Science & Psychology, etc) who worked there at the time, Dan Burisch. DB had interactions with the ET in the last level. DB said this ET was given a nickname of J-ROD. Unfortunately, I missed the meaning of the acronym but it had something to do with how they found him and what he looked like.
MS showed us a map of the area and explained that this area, in map terms called R4808n is aka Groom Lake and is "the most highly guarded airspace in the country". Many people call this area Dreamland. If any were to try to go over this airspace, the air force there is commanded to shoot them down. There is an INCREDIBLE radio show called Coast to Coast AM which is currently hosted by George Noory. There was a show once, when it was hosted by Art Bell where someone calls in, whose flying a prop-engine airplane, and flies over Area 51(Groom Lake/S4 exists within Area 51). This was one of my favorite shows. During the call Art tells the guy to turn around but the guy keeps going saying that the public has a right to know what's going on there. The guy tells art that the pilot in the jet that has been called out to catch him is trying to hail him on the radio. He then says the pilot will shoot and the even flashes his lights at him(didn't know jets had headlights). This call leaves you on the edge of your seat because just as he says the jet is about to fire something at him, the call cuts off! They really mean business at Area 51.
On with the presentation. The employees who work at these bases are just regular people who are actually bused and flown in from Las Vegas. Their jobs require them to be under constant surveillance and again, they cannot deviate from their ordered work area. They can also not fraternize in any way with other people who are not in their particular work group. They have to sit quietly and just do as they're required. MS said that on the airplane ride in to Groom Lake they play the song "They're Coming to America" as if to say the ETs are coming in to our country.
As I mentioned before, this is the same area, S4, where Bob Lazar purportedly worked. And this is the place where the famously coined UFO called the "Sport Model" was located. This was a UFO that Lazar worked on which he was able to give much detail as to how the craft was designed. MS told us that it had three levels. The bottom level had these three Gravity amplifiers that were essentially the propulsion chambers of the craft. These amplifiers used gravity is such a way to create a sort of bubble around that craft that made it fall forward, almost like the moon falls around the earth. The craft uses an element that, at that time did not exist. It was element 115 and when this element decayed, it created element 116 which created anti-matter and that formed it method of propulsion. Lazar said that he replaced a guy who died because he tried to open up one of these gravity amplifiers.
Michael Schratt(MS)
Michael's presentation covered an overview of some conversations he had with Dan Burisch regarding an alien he knew called J-ROD and his time in what was known as "Project Aquarius".
Similar to Bob lazar, Dan worked at "S4" located within the Area 51 military base and this is a testament to that experience.
To start, MS covered a little of the background of the base. The base had four levels that were all very secluded, top secret, and they were incredibly strict about gaining access to any one of the levels. For example, before anyone could enter one of the buildings, they had to completely undress, get weighed, then go forward. There were lines they had to follow as they moved from building to building and if they deviated at all from any one of the lines, they were in danger of being shot.
MS showed us a blueprint of the secret base based on the conversations with Mr. Burisch. He did a great job in creating a base upon which you could grasp what the environment would be like. Really great.
His presentation overall walked us through each level and as each level was shown to us, there was a whole new breadth of wild things you couldn't even make up in your wildest sci-fi dreams. Essentially, this facility was built underground with four very high-secure levels in order to ultimately get down to where this ET was being held captive. They also had ET craft there as well that has been confirmed by other people than just Dan Burisch.
Not only was the presentation focused on the building but this whole story was re-created by interviews with a major scientist(multiple degrees in Science & Psychology, etc) who worked there at the time, Dan Burisch. DB had interactions with the ET in the last level. DB said this ET was given a nickname of J-ROD. Unfortunately, I missed the meaning of the acronym but it had something to do with how they found him and what he looked like.
MS showed us a map of the area and explained that this area, in map terms called R4808n is aka Groom Lake and is "the most highly guarded airspace in the country". Many people call this area Dreamland. If any were to try to go over this airspace, the air force there is commanded to shoot them down. There is an INCREDIBLE radio show called Coast to Coast AM which is currently hosted by George Noory. There was a show once, when it was hosted by Art Bell where someone calls in, whose flying a prop-engine airplane, and flies over Area 51(Groom Lake/S4 exists within Area 51). This was one of my favorite shows. During the call Art tells the guy to turn around but the guy keeps going saying that the public has a right to know what's going on there. The guy tells art that the pilot in the jet that has been called out to catch him is trying to hail him on the radio. He then says the pilot will shoot and the even flashes his lights at him(didn't know jets had headlights). This call leaves you on the edge of your seat because just as he says the jet is about to fire something at him, the call cuts off! They really mean business at Area 51.
On with the presentation. The employees who work at these bases are just regular people who are actually bused and flown in from Las Vegas. Their jobs require them to be under constant surveillance and again, they cannot deviate from their ordered work area. They can also not fraternize in any way with other people who are not in their particular work group. They have to sit quietly and just do as they're required. MS said that on the airplane ride in to Groom Lake they play the song "They're Coming to America" as if to say the ETs are coming in to our country.
There were 5 programs that fell under Dan Burisch's experience. One of those programs was tending to the ET they held captive, J-ROD. J-Rod was one of three ETs found at a UFO crash in Kinsman, Arizona in 1954. One ET died upon impact, the other was taken to a different base (either Wright-Patterson or somewhere in DC.. missed this in presentation) and the third ET was taken to S4. Additionally, a device was retireived that was ultimately called "The Orion Cube". This cube was able to show anyone who handled it future events in to the near future.
Dan Burisch attended to J-ROD on a regular basis and one of his duties was to collect tissue samples from the J-ROD to help figure out and cure a strange genetic disease that had. J-ROD was housed inside of this large dome-like structure that was conditioned for him. On top were these bee-hive lights that were created so as to not emit any shadows. This was important because Dan Burisch had to be sure of the tissue samples he was taking upon contact with the J-ROD.
Upon each contact that Dan Burisch & J-ROD had with each, they had to do it in a certain way. An example was that they first had to wave once at each other then take one step forward. There was one time when the J-ROD apparently tripped on the grating and fell on top of Dan Burisch. When this happened, the J-ROD sent a massive amount of information into Dan Burisch's mind along with a peek into the near future. This had a very strong impact on Dan and from that moment forward started to feel some sort of connection with J-ROD. He knew that J-ROD had a home where he was from.
I don't remember the exact detail of how this moment happened but there was a moment when the J-ROD was getting much more ill and they built a sort of wheel-chair for him that was also conditioned. There was this ramp or something that,and this is where I get fuzzy but, at the end was the Orion Cube. Long story short, on this one occassion, Dan was puhing the wheel chair up the ramp and felt sorry for the J-ROD and felt an impulse to push him towards the cube's beam. The ending result was the J-ROD disappeared along with the wheel chair. Then, all of a sudden, the chair was almost pushed back onto the ramp and J-ROD was gone at that moment. Dan Burisch believes that he sent the J-ROD home by doing this.
This was the first presentation of the conference and what a great way to start! If you would like to read this story in its entirety with maps, blueprint, pictures, and EVERYTHING, you can do so by visiting the Open Minds website.
Dan Burisch attended to J-ROD on a regular basis and one of his duties was to collect tissue samples from the J-ROD to help figure out and cure a strange genetic disease that had. J-ROD was housed inside of this large dome-like structure that was conditioned for him. On top were these bee-hive lights that were created so as to not emit any shadows. This was important because Dan Burisch had to be sure of the tissue samples he was taking upon contact with the J-ROD.
Upon each contact that Dan Burisch & J-ROD had with each, they had to do it in a certain way. An example was that they first had to wave once at each other then take one step forward. There was one time when the J-ROD apparently tripped on the grating and fell on top of Dan Burisch. When this happened, the J-ROD sent a massive amount of information into Dan Burisch's mind along with a peek into the near future. This had a very strong impact on Dan and from that moment forward started to feel some sort of connection with J-ROD. He knew that J-ROD had a home where he was from.
I don't remember the exact detail of how this moment happened but there was a moment when the J-ROD was getting much more ill and they built a sort of wheel-chair for him that was also conditioned. There was this ramp or something that,and this is where I get fuzzy but, at the end was the Orion Cube. Long story short, on this one occassion, Dan was puhing the wheel chair up the ramp and felt sorry for the J-ROD and felt an impulse to push him towards the cube's beam. The ending result was the J-ROD disappeared along with the wheel chair. Then, all of a sudden, the chair was almost pushed back onto the ramp and J-ROD was gone at that moment. Dan Burisch believes that he sent the J-ROD home by doing this.
This was the first presentation of the conference and what a great way to start! If you would like to read this story in its entirety with maps, blueprint, pictures, and EVERYTHING, you can do so by visiting the Open Minds website.
UFO Kook Conference
Something I want to speak toward is the type of people at the conference. This being my first time, I had no idea what to expect. One of the things that went through my head was "what are the people going to be like at a UFO conference?". I think that's a valid question, right? Kooks or no kooks? Also, I wanted to let others who don't go to these things know what the people are like so that they can see for their selves.
Well, I have to say that 99.9% of the people I saw and met were completely normal and actually very nice. NO KOOKS. :) Personally, I felt honored at one point to be around so many nice people who were so open-minded and believed in something so incredible. This was around the last night that I was there at the banquet.
So, if you think people who go to UFO Conference are all crazy and crazy-looking, see for yourself.
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| Kathleen Marden & Stanton Friedman(Nuclear Physicist) |
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| MUFON Rep |
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| Me & Nancy Talbot |
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| Stan & Lisa Romanek |
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| Douser Dan(one of the vendor's who was really cool. Played the flute). |
Presenter: Hon. Paul Hellier
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Hon. Paul Hellyer Ex-Minister of Defence for Canada
www.victoryfortheworld.net
I do not know much from Paul Hellier so I am looking forward to this presentation. He used to be the Minister of Defence in Canada. I find this pretty cool because it shows that there are governments that are disposed to telling the truth about the UFO topic.
In the beginning of his presentation, he went into talking about ponzy schemes, bernie madeoff and the like. He says that even though this was illegal, there have been Kings and governments that have indeed lent the same money and charged a gig her interest on it in order to make more money off of it. Even when he was a boy, Canada had to keep a reserve of 8% in order to lend it out up to 12 times. This has increased dramactially even up to 21 + times. He continued on explaining about how money appears out of nowhere and how it's all a big, crazy game about how it just all snowballs and then ultimately gets really BAD. He said the banks turn the world into a big pawn shop. A world system where all money created is debt is a disaster in the making. This ultimately affects the little man.
HPH says that there are people who actually orchestrate these meltdowns on purpose. This proves, he says, that Wall Street is rotten to the core. Not only Wall Street but also the Rockefeller family.
So I'll break away from the details of this presentation and give you a link to the actual speech that the Hon. Paul Hellier read from. Additionally, I want to explain a little of what happened from here on a personal level.
So Mr. Hellier continues talking about how crummy the world is and how we really don't have out act together. I started to seriously question WHY he was talking about this stuff when he very cleverly brougth it right around to the UFO topic. I was blown away by what he said and I believe you will be too if you read the full PDF. Please do take the time to read this and PLEASE DO send it to someone else when you can.
He basically said that the governments of the world DO KNOW about the ET existence and they are watching what we do and how we handle things. Not only that but that we need to start NOW before its too late. With the technology that we could possibly obtain from these beings, we could bring the petroleum industry to its knees. We could live in a world where energy was limitless and cheap or FREE. As he was talking about this my mind really started pondering the possibilities of what mankind would be like in this type of a scenario. He also started there were ways NOW to use better sources of energy if we only stopped letting ourselves rely on these corrupt people. He said the change has to start from the common man. It will never happen from the top.
I would like to ask you to please do take the time to read the online version of his speech and I guarantee it will make a big impact on you too.
Hon. Paul Hellyer Ex-Minister of Defence for Canada
www.victoryfortheworld.net
I do not know much from Paul Hellier so I am looking forward to this presentation. He used to be the Minister of Defence in Canada. I find this pretty cool because it shows that there are governments that are disposed to telling the truth about the UFO topic.
In the beginning of his presentation, he went into talking about ponzy schemes, bernie madeoff and the like. He says that even though this was illegal, there have been Kings and governments that have indeed lent the same money and charged a gig her interest on it in order to make more money off of it. Even when he was a boy, Canada had to keep a reserve of 8% in order to lend it out up to 12 times. This has increased dramactially even up to 21 + times. He continued on explaining about how money appears out of nowhere and how it's all a big, crazy game about how it just all snowballs and then ultimately gets really BAD. He said the banks turn the world into a big pawn shop. A world system where all money created is debt is a disaster in the making. This ultimately affects the little man.
HPH says that there are people who actually orchestrate these meltdowns on purpose. This proves, he says, that Wall Street is rotten to the core. Not only Wall Street but also the Rockefeller family.
So I'll break away from the details of this presentation and give you a link to the actual speech that the Hon. Paul Hellier read from. Additionally, I want to explain a little of what happened from here on a personal level.
So Mr. Hellier continues talking about how crummy the world is and how we really don't have out act together. I started to seriously question WHY he was talking about this stuff when he very cleverly brougth it right around to the UFO topic. I was blown away by what he said and I believe you will be too if you read the full PDF. Please do take the time to read this and PLEASE DO send it to someone else when you can.
He basically said that the governments of the world DO KNOW about the ET existence and they are watching what we do and how we handle things. Not only that but that we need to start NOW before its too late. With the technology that we could possibly obtain from these beings, we could bring the petroleum industry to its knees. We could live in a world where energy was limitless and cheap or FREE. As he was talking about this my mind really started pondering the possibilities of what mankind would be like in this type of a scenario. He also started there were ways NOW to use better sources of energy if we only stopped letting ourselves rely on these corrupt people. He said the change has to start from the common man. It will never happen from the top.
I would like to ask you to please do take the time to read the online version of his speech and I guarantee it will make a big impact on you too.
Saturday, February 26, 2011
Presenter: Leslie Kean
Fort McDowell, Arizona
I've seen LK on Comedy Central before on John Stewart.
LK's approach to dealing with this topic is quite different because she's is very diplomatic. That means she knows there is a way you have to be in dealing with the higher ups when it comes to UFOs. She says you should approach them by saying that there things that people can't explain that are flying around the sky. I've heard people talking about this where they say something along the lines of "air defense". And this makes sense because the truth is.. there ARE things flying around yup there that we can't explain. There are some people who assert there are Unidentified things up there that are actually OUR craft.
She ace us an exampel of how a govt handled a UFO event. This event happened in Belgium. A colonel at the time was assigned to ID what these things were flying over there country. Most of the objects were triangular with red light in the center. This event was coined "The Belguim Wave". There were a plethora of witnesses. In one case, there were two police officers who followed a ship to a lake then it sent out a red light ball to the water. They also saw these windows/light panels. Then a second craft appeared. After these two police saw these, one of the guys went to a monastery. The ship was seen hovering above monastery. This scared the police officer.
There was another event where a man and his wife saw a ship and he flashed his lights at the ship. The ship turned towards him and then flashed its lights at the man. The ship then followed the people on their journey back home. Again, they pretty much panicked.
Because this was a wave, there were MANY binder books completely full of witness sightings. And because these sightings occurred among important military people, the govt was involved and investigated it fully and openly. Amazingly enough, after some time the people wanted to know where things were with the govt.'s investigation and believe it or not the govt held a press conference regaring the developments they had gained at that time. REALLY. And the extra cool part is they had hard data of these incredible jumps these ships made from 0 to who knows in velocity. This is great because that's exactly what we need.
LK then showed us a similar batch or WAVE in the US and how we handled it and it was WAY different. It goes without saying that we DIDNT handle it unless it was done internally. What a contrast. Why?
I've seen LK on Comedy Central before on John Stewart.
LK's approach to dealing with this topic is quite different because she's is very diplomatic. That means she knows there is a way you have to be in dealing with the higher ups when it comes to UFOs. She says you should approach them by saying that there things that people can't explain that are flying around the sky. I've heard people talking about this where they say something along the lines of "air defense". And this makes sense because the truth is.. there ARE things flying around yup there that we can't explain. There are some people who assert there are Unidentified things up there that are actually OUR craft.
She ace us an exampel of how a govt handled a UFO event. This event happened in Belgium. A colonel at the time was assigned to ID what these things were flying over there country. Most of the objects were triangular with red light in the center. This event was coined "The Belguim Wave". There were a plethora of witnesses. In one case, there were two police officers who followed a ship to a lake then it sent out a red light ball to the water. They also saw these windows/light panels. Then a second craft appeared. After these two police saw these, one of the guys went to a monastery. The ship was seen hovering above monastery. This scared the police officer.
There was another event where a man and his wife saw a ship and he flashed his lights at the ship. The ship turned towards him and then flashed its lights at the man. The ship then followed the people on their journey back home. Again, they pretty much panicked.
Because this was a wave, there were MANY binder books completely full of witness sightings. And because these sightings occurred among important military people, the govt was involved and investigated it fully and openly. Amazingly enough, after some time the people wanted to know where things were with the govt.'s investigation and believe it or not the govt held a press conference regaring the developments they had gained at that time. REALLY. And the extra cool part is they had hard data of these incredible jumps these ships made from 0 to who knows in velocity. This is great because that's exactly what we need.
LK then showed us a similar batch or WAVE in the US and how we handled it and it was WAY different. It goes without saying that we DIDNT handle it unless it was done internally. What a contrast. Why?
Presenter: Travis Walton
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Travis Walton(TW)
www.travis-walton.com
A movie was done about Travis Walton some time ago. Travis's story happened in 1975. He and his some coworkers had a job where they performed the duties of loggers. On the way back home , going through the forest, they encountered a light shining through the trees. As they got closer to it, it was unmistakeably a UFO. One of his bussies blurted that out as a type of reaction to what they say. Travis decided to go and walk up to it. His friends were yelling at him to not do it and come back. He got all the way up to it and all of a sudden was jolted by this light and thrown backwards some 10-20 feet or so. His friends said that by the way his body reacted during the theow that maybe he was dead. He did not respond at all. The guys took off out of fear then came back only to find that Travia disappeared. The guys then went to the police to report what had happened. The police obviously thought he was murdered. But the guys swore up and down that what they saw was true. There was an intense search done to find these guys. We're talking ATVs, helicopters, man-hunt side-by-side thing to find him. They scoured every inch of the area where the guys said they saw Travis get hit. The police were at the point of reeling these guys in as the primary suspects. That is until Travis made a phoen call to his family and was found some distance away from his own town, naked, scared, and freaked out.
Travis later recounted a story having been taken aboard a craft, waking up inside of it, and wandering aroudn that ship. He went into a room with something like a star map that filled the entire space and when he touched a button, the whole room's star orientation changed and he almost fell over.
A humanoid figure came into the room, escorted him out then put this mask on him that knocked him out. The interesting thing about this case, to me, is the part where the police searched everywhere for him and then he appeared. That's the evidence past that many people have a hard time dealing with. Of course, you have the types who think he faked the whole thing.
---The Presentation.
Travis started us off by showing us some clips from the movie, some actor interviews, then went into how reality was different from that of the movie.
He sid that they weren't at all tired when they were driving back home as in the movie. When they vamp upon the craft, he did approach it the same way as in the movie. He said that he just thought it wouldn't DO anything to him. He admits he was scared.
He showed us some pictues of the original crew, the truck they drove, the part of the state where it happened, a drawing of the ship. It said it was incredible as far as size. He said it looked PERFECT like a new corvette. He said it was metallic and glowing. IT was somooth like glass with a light that lit up everything and gave everything a sort of glow. There was a low, deep rumble that he could almost feel. He also said there were some really high-pitched notes that must have been close to out of range of human hearing. He said the ship started to get louder then started to move. IT scared him. He was in the process of backing up and touched a pile of log debris. He jumped behind that debris to go for cover as the ship was moving. He raised up from behind the log to run and then was hit. It was a stunning blow feeling. He said it felt numb. He then blacked out. His buddies said that a beam of light came out of the craft and hit him. Travis very adamantly says that he does not blame his friends for running like they did. He says they thought he was dead and it just made sense to try and protect themselves. Contrary to the movie, the guys did all go back to find Travis. In the movie, only the brother went back alone. Travis said it's silly that anyone would think the guys would stand there alone in that forest.
When the guys reported their story to the sheriff , the sheriff said he immediately believed them but many people thought it was just a cover story for some sort of foul play. TW said the guys were constantly being asked to tell the truth of what really happened. They even said they would take a polygraph test. Sure enough they did and they all passed. PEople were desperate to explain this away but evidence like this makes it impossible.
The first thing he recalls after being hit wit the beam was that he was very confused. He remembers approaching the craft. He was laying on a table.. raised surface. So he logically thought he was in a hospital. He had trouble breathing, couldn't get enough air. There was a light above him. He thought if he moved that would make the pai nworse. Besides, he thought he was at a hospital and did not want to move too much thinking the doctors would take care if him. He looked to his right and saw the face of something that did NOT look like a Doctor. He said the surge of fear gave him enough strength to move. Even though he was weak , his push was more like a nudge. TW says many people don't understand the degree of fear he was experiencing. This makes it difficult for people to understand why he did some of the things he did. When he rolled off the table, he staggered away from the beings. They came toward him. He fell back against a shelf or something. He grabbed something off it and tried to hit them. He was constantly screaming stuff and they eventually stopped coming at him. They had their backs to the doors. TW made the comment that these guys had ey e lids, pupils and such. He said they were looing at him in a disturbing kind of way that he will never forget. He said it was a detached sort of look that makes it hard to describe. He obviously is still touched by that experience. TW was thinning how he could fight past the to get through the door. They stopped, turned , and went out surprisingly to TW. TW walked out of the door, went down a passage way. He said it curved to the right very far down. He didn't know if he should run more or stay where he was already. HE came to a door, well what he thought was a door, and went through it. He showed us a drawing of the path he followed... well more like a floor plan. He found a round room with a chair in the middle with controls on it. He touched he controls but says they didn't seem to do anything. He did mention the part about the stay pattern again. It gave him vertigo. He was about to push another button when something caught his attention. The man looked exactly like a himan. He was wearing a blue uniform with a glass bubble-l;ike helmet. The man did not talk to him at all. The man too khim out of the craf into a big hangar. The hangar was huge with other craft in it. The man herded him out of this hangar to a smaller hallway. There was someone else there dressed like the first man. The other men did not have on a helmet. Travis attempted to talk to these people but they just did not respond to him whatsoever. They forced him over to a table. They put a mask on his face and he was knocked out. The drawing of these other people was very interesting. They looked just like us. They were very healthy-looking, white skin, long hair. When he woke up, he saw a craft just above his head. He said that the craft shot up so quickly that it amazed him that soemthing could move that fast without breaking the sound barrier. Turns out he was about 15 miles from the town where he lived.
At points TW seemed to almost have a hard time talking about some of this. Oddly enough, I got that same impression yesterday when I was talking to him about the fear part of his experience. Apparently, his beother died recently, like 3-4 days ago.
TW said the doctorss said he had Transitory Psychosis. He had a ton of tests, psychiatric tests and everything showed that he was perfectly normal. Drug screens came out negative as well. Then there was another acusation that he a hypnotist might have planted these ideas in his head. More or less the story aft wards was a huge mess. He did his best to tel the story and even wrote a book about the whole thing.
He said that the tress in the site where he was taken showed a very distrinct growth pattern. He showed a really cool graphic of a tree with 1975b marked in one of the rings and you could clearly see that the tree was developing wood fiber many more times. So the rings after 1975 grew at a much quicker rate.
TW says there were many attempts of people to try and cover this story up. ONe time a FED agent came in and was very aggressive and intimidating. He said he came in on behalf of forestry company. He wronte a confession and tried to make TW's brother sign it! Right around this time the copy of thte sheriff report went missing.
Even after his first book came out, then sold out, the publishing company wouldn't make anymore. He asked for his rights back and they said why would you want to do that when you've got some much more publishing life in it?!
Travis believes that people, in particular Phillip Klass, was used to put out disinformation over and over. In an interview, Phillip Klass said that why didn't the dry pine needles burn up in the area where the blast occurred. Personally, I find that absurd. We don't know anything about the ET technology so how does he know it's incendiary in any way?
A quote from him was "For those who believe no evidence is necessary. For those who do not no amount of evidence will ever be enough". (paraphrased)
I do believe TW's story and I can tell he's very sincere about what he's telling us. I have enjoyed his presentation.
Travis Walton(TW)
www.travis-walton.com
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| Alec Brindell & Travis Walton |
Travis later recounted a story having been taken aboard a craft, waking up inside of it, and wandering aroudn that ship. He went into a room with something like a star map that filled the entire space and when he touched a button, the whole room's star orientation changed and he almost fell over.
A humanoid figure came into the room, escorted him out then put this mask on him that knocked him out. The interesting thing about this case, to me, is the part where the police searched everywhere for him and then he appeared. That's the evidence past that many people have a hard time dealing with. Of course, you have the types who think he faked the whole thing.
---The Presentation.
Travis started us off by showing us some clips from the movie, some actor interviews, then went into how reality was different from that of the movie.
He sid that they weren't at all tired when they were driving back home as in the movie. When they vamp upon the craft, he did approach it the same way as in the movie. He said that he just thought it wouldn't DO anything to him. He admits he was scared.
He showed us some pictues of the original crew, the truck they drove, the part of the state where it happened, a drawing of the ship. It said it was incredible as far as size. He said it looked PERFECT like a new corvette. He said it was metallic and glowing. IT was somooth like glass with a light that lit up everything and gave everything a sort of glow. There was a low, deep rumble that he could almost feel. He also said there were some really high-pitched notes that must have been close to out of range of human hearing. He said the ship started to get louder then started to move. IT scared him. He was in the process of backing up and touched a pile of log debris. He jumped behind that debris to go for cover as the ship was moving. He raised up from behind the log to run and then was hit. It was a stunning blow feeling. He said it felt numb. He then blacked out. His buddies said that a beam of light came out of the craft and hit him. Travis very adamantly says that he does not blame his friends for running like they did. He says they thought he was dead and it just made sense to try and protect themselves. Contrary to the movie, the guys did all go back to find Travis. In the movie, only the brother went back alone. Travis said it's silly that anyone would think the guys would stand there alone in that forest.
When the guys reported their story to the sheriff , the sheriff said he immediately believed them but many people thought it was just a cover story for some sort of foul play. TW said the guys were constantly being asked to tell the truth of what really happened. They even said they would take a polygraph test. Sure enough they did and they all passed. PEople were desperate to explain this away but evidence like this makes it impossible.
The first thing he recalls after being hit wit the beam was that he was very confused. He remembers approaching the craft. He was laying on a table.. raised surface. So he logically thought he was in a hospital. He had trouble breathing, couldn't get enough air. There was a light above him. He thought if he moved that would make the pai nworse. Besides, he thought he was at a hospital and did not want to move too much thinking the doctors would take care if him. He looked to his right and saw the face of something that did NOT look like a Doctor. He said the surge of fear gave him enough strength to move. Even though he was weak , his push was more like a nudge. TW says many people don't understand the degree of fear he was experiencing. This makes it difficult for people to understand why he did some of the things he did. When he rolled off the table, he staggered away from the beings. They came toward him. He fell back against a shelf or something. He grabbed something off it and tried to hit them. He was constantly screaming stuff and they eventually stopped coming at him. They had their backs to the doors. TW made the comment that these guys had ey e lids, pupils and such. He said they were looing at him in a disturbing kind of way that he will never forget. He said it was a detached sort of look that makes it hard to describe. He obviously is still touched by that experience. TW was thinning how he could fight past the to get through the door. They stopped, turned , and went out surprisingly to TW. TW walked out of the door, went down a passage way. He said it curved to the right very far down. He didn't know if he should run more or stay where he was already. HE came to a door, well what he thought was a door, and went through it. He showed us a drawing of the path he followed... well more like a floor plan. He found a round room with a chair in the middle with controls on it. He touched he controls but says they didn't seem to do anything. He did mention the part about the stay pattern again. It gave him vertigo. He was about to push another button when something caught his attention. The man looked exactly like a himan. He was wearing a blue uniform with a glass bubble-l;ike helmet. The man did not talk to him at all. The man too khim out of the craf into a big hangar. The hangar was huge with other craft in it. The man herded him out of this hangar to a smaller hallway. There was someone else there dressed like the first man. The other men did not have on a helmet. Travis attempted to talk to these people but they just did not respond to him whatsoever. They forced him over to a table. They put a mask on his face and he was knocked out. The drawing of these other people was very interesting. They looked just like us. They were very healthy-looking, white skin, long hair. When he woke up, he saw a craft just above his head. He said that the craft shot up so quickly that it amazed him that soemthing could move that fast without breaking the sound barrier. Turns out he was about 15 miles from the town where he lived.
At points TW seemed to almost have a hard time talking about some of this. Oddly enough, I got that same impression yesterday when I was talking to him about the fear part of his experience. Apparently, his beother died recently, like 3-4 days ago.
TW said the doctorss said he had Transitory Psychosis. He had a ton of tests, psychiatric tests and everything showed that he was perfectly normal. Drug screens came out negative as well. Then there was another acusation that he a hypnotist might have planted these ideas in his head. More or less the story aft wards was a huge mess. He did his best to tel the story and even wrote a book about the whole thing.
He said that the tress in the site where he was taken showed a very distrinct growth pattern. He showed a really cool graphic of a tree with 1975b marked in one of the rings and you could clearly see that the tree was developing wood fiber many more times. So the rings after 1975 grew at a much quicker rate.
TW says there were many attempts of people to try and cover this story up. ONe time a FED agent came in and was very aggressive and intimidating. He said he came in on behalf of forestry company. He wronte a confession and tried to make TW's brother sign it! Right around this time the copy of thte sheriff report went missing.
Even after his first book came out, then sold out, the publishing company wouldn't make anymore. He asked for his rights back and they said why would you want to do that when you've got some much more publishing life in it?!
Travis believes that people, in particular Phillip Klass, was used to put out disinformation over and over. In an interview, Phillip Klass said that why didn't the dry pine needles burn up in the area where the blast occurred. Personally, I find that absurd. We don't know anything about the ET technology so how does he know it's incendiary in any way?
A quote from him was "For those who believe no evidence is necessary. For those who do not no amount of evidence will ever be enough". (paraphrased)
I do believe TW's story and I can tell he's very sincere about what he's telling us. I have enjoyed his presentation.
Presenter: Stanton Friedman
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Stan Friedman(SF) is a Nuclear Physicist. He has long been involved in proving that UFOs exist ever since the days of PRoject Blue Book in the 50s. Personally, I really admire him because despite the fact that other scientists shun this topic, he does not. He's very learned and well-spoken and I feel so re-assured listening to him speak. He's also very funny and witty and does a great job of mixing that into his talks. I mean, the guy is REALLY smart and is basically saying THIS EXISTS.
His lecture today is about Exposing Debunkers. I think his main argument is that the debunkers don't even bother taking the time to look at the evidence. They quickly give some reason why it's not real, call the believers crazy and that's it. SF says that it does exist and if they only took the time to look at the evidence they might be convinced as well. Powerful stuff.
There's a difference between a skeptic and a debunker. A skeptic says there's evidence to look at somewhere. A debunker says there is no evidence and there's no point in looking at it.
The Presentation----
SF says this is the biggest story of our lifetimes and hopefully one day somebody like the NY Times will break this story.
Debunkers ignore evidence. be flexible by coming up explanations of why it doesn't exist.
SF says there has been a long history of "debunkdom". They appear to be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to protect the world from the non-sense of UFOs. "Don't bother me with the facts, My minds made up" "If you can't attack the facts, attack the people". It's easy to be a debunker. Ie; Bill Nye the Science Guy. His wife is known to have said that Bill spends approx. 5 minutes before a debate of that type.
The claim is "No aliens are visiting Earth". A good case against this claim is the Betty & Barney Hill case. It's a very serious case of visitation with lots of evidence, physical evidence.
Dr. Susan Clancy wrote a book about alien visitations and unfortunately this book had a lot of false claims. Dr. Clancy says she's read everything and saw it on TV. For example, she talks about the Alligash Abductions and gets many of the points wrong like even number of abductees and such. Very basic things. This is an example of how people/media/what-have-you just take the word of someone because they have a Doctorate and they (the media) doesn't do any good background checks, etc of the information on their own.
SF shows us the famous drawing Betty Hill did of where her abductors were from. She drew this series of dots which were connected with dotted lines and straight lines. LAter, it was discovered these dots were stars in/near the Zeta Reticuli star system.
Enrico Fermi came up with a concept called "The Fermi Paradox". Fermi and his coleagues were talking about how it would be to colonize the galaxy. The paradox comes about when they ask the question if it's so easy, where are all the other beings? SF's answer is we don't know but the government knows something and they're not telling us. Some people say this paradox says nobody was coming here.
There's a book called "The Zeta Reticuli Incident". SF says this is no longer available but you can get it on the internet. Ebook torrent possibly? When I have time, I will come back to this post and add a link to the book when I find it out in the ether.
Another claim is Secrets cannot be kept. Seth Shostak of SETI says this. SF says this is ridiculous because EVERYONE keeps secrets. He gave specific examples of this. One example was how our govt has built all of these incredibly expensive spy planes and satellites are created without anyone knowing about it. Have gave another funny example of a document that took him 5 years to get form the Air Force that was almost completely redacted with the exception of 8 words.
Third Claim is that there is "No need to look at so called scientific studies". This points to what I mentioned at the top of this post. Again, Seth Shostak says this and does not check any of the facts that exist. Stan showed us a copy of a book called "The UFO Evidence" and another from Project Blue Book that at least shows there there were sightings and the end result was inconclusive. So at least there was SOMETHING they could look at and say ... "What is this and let's investigate more of it".
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a cosmologist employed bt the Air Force in the 50s was put in charge of PRoject Blue Book. During that time he, purportedly, was pressured to write that many of the sightings he investigated on behalf of the US Air Force were nothign more than swamp gas or other inexplicable naturally-occurring anomalies. Later in his life , Dr. Hynek did recant his claims and said that he did truly believe that UFOs were indeed real.
Another example SF gave was regarding the Condon Report. It was commissioned by the US Govt and did have a small percentage of sightings that were inconclusive but they did nothing about it or even attempted to explain it in some way.
Fourth Claim is "There is no physical evidence". SF says there is a lot of physical evidence. He showed an exampel of a ring left where there was believed to be a landed craft. They did an sample of the dirt, along with dirt taken from other places in the area that showed significant differences from each other. I know that this is a very common thing that even MUFON does is take samples and analyze them.
Fifth Claim is an "Interstellar Vehicle could not crash here". I've heard a cosmologist say this before. They think that if a UFO could get all the way from some far away place that there's no way they would actually crash. SF showed an example of an aircraft carrier that had planes on it and how the planes are GREAT in the air but crappy in WATER . And then how the carrier is great on the water but bad in the air.
Another claim is "Why don't they land on the White House lawn"? First off, the White House is a No-Fly Zone! I've always believed that the UFOs don't WANT to land on the WH lawn. SF just said the same thing.
Claim "No pictures can withstand examination". SF says "says who?" There are some good ones out there. Just because there are some bad pictures doesn't mean there aren't any good ones. He gives many examples of some pictures and even one that the the Govt of Brazil released.
SF says that he's sent debunkers data , after them having said that they needed data. Then the debukers still wouldn't even accept information from even the AirForce.
He gave examples from Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov where they just said stupid things where they made pronouncements without doing their homework.
Dr. Lawrence Krauss who speaks out very often against UFOs is a very smart guy but doesn't know anything about this topic. "Don't bother me wit hthe facts."
Rule: "If I can't attack the data, attack the people". It is common that these guys just simply attack the people who believe in this topic instead of keeping their responses to the data.
Robert Sheaffer is another debunker. Another smart guy but completely just ignored any evidence at all.
Rule: "There is no national security aspect to UFOs." SF showed another example of instead of BLACKED OUt data, whited out data that he again obtained from the document. Yet another example of where the govt is keeping a secret. Debunkers say this isn't a secret. !!
Dr. Doanld Menzel said "All non-explained sightings are from poor observers." What a maroon to say something like this. SF said all of his observations can be taken apart by a sophomore-level college student. SF came to respect Menzel after finding out some facts about him.
Carl Sagan was known to have even said some just very closed off statements that were obviously not backed by look at any of the evidence that exists. He also made some false statements regarding the Betty and Barney Hill case. Again, people took his word because he was a famous Scientist but he did not know the facts.
Seth Shostak is another person who absolutely refuses to read the facts and admits it. SF went into a thing about how silly the SETI program is because of the fact that the chances of an alien civilization probably isn't using radio any longer.
Paul Davies is a great astronomer and has written some interesting books that I've read(I read one) that talk about what life would be like after we make contact. However, he's completely oblivious to any of the information out there about this topic and regress to look at it. I knwo that in his book, Are We Alone? he states that he firmly does not believe that we are or have ever been visited.
Frank Drake came up with the Drake equation and SF very comically showed that we don't have any actual data for the equation because we don't actually know how long it takes for a civilization to grow.
So all-in-all I enjoyed his presentation. I get this sense of security actually by listening to him because I know that he is incredibly intelligent and knows his stuff. It's good to know that we have someone like him on our side and hope that he continues to fight and help this cause.
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| Kathleen Marden & Stanton Friedman |
His lecture today is about Exposing Debunkers. I think his main argument is that the debunkers don't even bother taking the time to look at the evidence. They quickly give some reason why it's not real, call the believers crazy and that's it. SF says that it does exist and if they only took the time to look at the evidence they might be convinced as well. Powerful stuff.
There's a difference between a skeptic and a debunker. A skeptic says there's evidence to look at somewhere. A debunker says there is no evidence and there's no point in looking at it.
The Presentation----
SF says this is the biggest story of our lifetimes and hopefully one day somebody like the NY Times will break this story.
Debunkers ignore evidence. be flexible by coming up explanations of why it doesn't exist.
SF says there has been a long history of "debunkdom". They appear to be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to protect the world from the non-sense of UFOs. "Don't bother me with the facts, My minds made up" "If you can't attack the facts, attack the people". It's easy to be a debunker. Ie; Bill Nye the Science Guy. His wife is known to have said that Bill spends approx. 5 minutes before a debate of that type.
The claim is "No aliens are visiting Earth". A good case against this claim is the Betty & Barney Hill case. It's a very serious case of visitation with lots of evidence, physical evidence.
Dr. Susan Clancy wrote a book about alien visitations and unfortunately this book had a lot of false claims. Dr. Clancy says she's read everything and saw it on TV. For example, she talks about the Alligash Abductions and gets many of the points wrong like even number of abductees and such. Very basic things. This is an example of how people/media/what-have-you just take the word of someone because they have a Doctorate and they (the media) doesn't do any good background checks, etc of the information on their own.
SF shows us the famous drawing Betty Hill did of where her abductors were from. She drew this series of dots which were connected with dotted lines and straight lines. LAter, it was discovered these dots were stars in/near the Zeta Reticuli star system.
Enrico Fermi came up with a concept called "The Fermi Paradox". Fermi and his coleagues were talking about how it would be to colonize the galaxy. The paradox comes about when they ask the question if it's so easy, where are all the other beings? SF's answer is we don't know but the government knows something and they're not telling us. Some people say this paradox says nobody was coming here.
There's a book called "The Zeta Reticuli Incident". SF says this is no longer available but you can get it on the internet. Ebook torrent possibly? When I have time, I will come back to this post and add a link to the book when I find it out in the ether.
Another claim is Secrets cannot be kept. Seth Shostak of SETI says this. SF says this is ridiculous because EVERYONE keeps secrets. He gave specific examples of this. One example was how our govt has built all of these incredibly expensive spy planes and satellites are created without anyone knowing about it. Have gave another funny example of a document that took him 5 years to get form the Air Force that was almost completely redacted with the exception of 8 words.
Third Claim is that there is "No need to look at so called scientific studies". This points to what I mentioned at the top of this post. Again, Seth Shostak says this and does not check any of the facts that exist. Stan showed us a copy of a book called "The UFO Evidence" and another from Project Blue Book that at least shows there there were sightings and the end result was inconclusive. So at least there was SOMETHING they could look at and say ... "What is this and let's investigate more of it".
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a cosmologist employed bt the Air Force in the 50s was put in charge of PRoject Blue Book. During that time he, purportedly, was pressured to write that many of the sightings he investigated on behalf of the US Air Force were nothign more than swamp gas or other inexplicable naturally-occurring anomalies. Later in his life , Dr. Hynek did recant his claims and said that he did truly believe that UFOs were indeed real.
Another example SF gave was regarding the Condon Report. It was commissioned by the US Govt and did have a small percentage of sightings that were inconclusive but they did nothing about it or even attempted to explain it in some way.
Fourth Claim is "There is no physical evidence". SF says there is a lot of physical evidence. He showed an exampel of a ring left where there was believed to be a landed craft. They did an sample of the dirt, along with dirt taken from other places in the area that showed significant differences from each other. I know that this is a very common thing that even MUFON does is take samples and analyze them.
Fifth Claim is an "Interstellar Vehicle could not crash here". I've heard a cosmologist say this before. They think that if a UFO could get all the way from some far away place that there's no way they would actually crash. SF showed an example of an aircraft carrier that had planes on it and how the planes are GREAT in the air but crappy in WATER . And then how the carrier is great on the water but bad in the air.
Another claim is "Why don't they land on the White House lawn"? First off, the White House is a No-Fly Zone! I've always believed that the UFOs don't WANT to land on the WH lawn. SF just said the same thing.
Claim "No pictures can withstand examination". SF says "says who?" There are some good ones out there. Just because there are some bad pictures doesn't mean there aren't any good ones. He gives many examples of some pictures and even one that the the Govt of Brazil released.
SF says that he's sent debunkers data , after them having said that they needed data. Then the debukers still wouldn't even accept information from even the AirForce.
He gave examples from Arthur C. Clarke and Isaac Asimov where they just said stupid things where they made pronouncements without doing their homework.
Dr. Lawrence Krauss who speaks out very often against UFOs is a very smart guy but doesn't know anything about this topic. "Don't bother me wit hthe facts."
Rule: "If I can't attack the data, attack the people". It is common that these guys just simply attack the people who believe in this topic instead of keeping their responses to the data.
Robert Sheaffer is another debunker. Another smart guy but completely just ignored any evidence at all.
Rule: "There is no national security aspect to UFOs." SF showed another example of instead of BLACKED OUt data, whited out data that he again obtained from the document. Yet another example of where the govt is keeping a secret. Debunkers say this isn't a secret. !!
Dr. Doanld Menzel said "All non-explained sightings are from poor observers." What a maroon to say something like this. SF said all of his observations can be taken apart by a sophomore-level college student. SF came to respect Menzel after finding out some facts about him.
Carl Sagan was known to have even said some just very closed off statements that were obviously not backed by look at any of the evidence that exists. He also made some false statements regarding the Betty and Barney Hill case. Again, people took his word because he was a famous Scientist but he did not know the facts.
Seth Shostak is another person who absolutely refuses to read the facts and admits it. SF went into a thing about how silly the SETI program is because of the fact that the chances of an alien civilization probably isn't using radio any longer.
Paul Davies is a great astronomer and has written some interesting books that I've read(I read one) that talk about what life would be like after we make contact. However, he's completely oblivious to any of the information out there about this topic and regress to look at it. I knwo that in his book, Are We Alone? he states that he firmly does not believe that we are or have ever been visited.
Frank Drake came up with the Drake equation and SF very comically showed that we don't have any actual data for the equation because we don't actually know how long it takes for a civilization to grow.
So all-in-all I enjoyed his presentation. I get this sense of security actually by listening to him because I know that he is incredibly intelligent and knows his stuff. It's good to know that we have someone like him on our side and hope that he continues to fight and help this cause.
Presenter: Jim Marrs
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Jim Marrs(JM).
His topic is on remote vie wining and aliens. He started the presentation by talking about some of the experiments in the US Govt where they used people who were psychic. This reminds me of that movie Mean Who Stare At Goats. I don't mean to discredit his presentation, mind you.
It is true , however, that the government did do this. They had a remote vie wining headquarters. And even though the "headquarters" was a shacky-looking old house, it actually had all sorts of technology built in there. He said the house had all these psychedelic posters and such in it.
JM started to speak towards how we live in an energy field. The remote viewers believed that what they would come up with was part of the great energy field of the universe that we are all connected to. So, for example, a tree is made up of that same energy.
The remote viewing process is oen of selection. So as the remote viewer saw something, his/her interviewers would ask them a series of questions for the purpose of zeroing in to a particular location on the planet.
Oddly enough, JM had written a book on this , with all sorts of sensitive material, and the book was cancelled from out of nowhere.
Some of the remote vie wining names were like Grill Flame, Center LAne, Eahle Claw, Dragoon Absorb, Sunstreak, and stargate.
One of the things they found out about Remote Viewing is there is no limit of time or space. That means you can go backhand forth in time/space. It's limitless. Ingo Swann is a famous remote viewer who viewed Jupiter and it turned out later that what he came up with was verified when Voayager I came back with its data.
Jim gave us an example of a time when he was assigned a story on transcendental meditation. Turns out he was g iven the class so he could learn about more. He was skeptical but he was raised a baptsist. He just wanted to report on it. Turns out that at one point, he remote viewed , and drew out a floor plan of what he thought was the headquarters of that place. Well, he ended up being wrong. He gave them the drawing and forgot about it. Later on, he found out that they did move to a bigger location and his drawing was exactly the same.
JM gave us an example of where a group of people got some remote viewers together and examined the 1940s UFO Crash in Aztec, NM. In particular, the remote viewer told a story of a ship that crashed. Military types rushed in and gathered 16 bodies. They tried to communicate with them but could not. The entities were then executed. Welcome to Earth!
JM has written a couple of books. In particular one called Alien Agenda which is one of the top-selling non-fiction books in the UFO genre. You can learn more about Jim at www.jimmarrs.com
Jim Marrs(JM).
His topic is on remote vie wining and aliens. He started the presentation by talking about some of the experiments in the US Govt where they used people who were psychic. This reminds me of that movie Mean Who Stare At Goats. I don't mean to discredit his presentation, mind you.
It is true , however, that the government did do this. They had a remote vie wining headquarters. And even though the "headquarters" was a shacky-looking old house, it actually had all sorts of technology built in there. He said the house had all these psychedelic posters and such in it.
JM started to speak towards how we live in an energy field. The remote viewers believed that what they would come up with was part of the great energy field of the universe that we are all connected to. So, for example, a tree is made up of that same energy.
The remote viewing process is oen of selection. So as the remote viewer saw something, his/her interviewers would ask them a series of questions for the purpose of zeroing in to a particular location on the planet.
Oddly enough, JM had written a book on this , with all sorts of sensitive material, and the book was cancelled from out of nowhere.
Some of the remote vie wining names were like Grill Flame, Center LAne, Eahle Claw, Dragoon Absorb, Sunstreak, and stargate.
One of the things they found out about Remote Viewing is there is no limit of time or space. That means you can go backhand forth in time/space. It's limitless. Ingo Swann is a famous remote viewer who viewed Jupiter and it turned out later that what he came up with was verified when Voayager I came back with its data.
Jim gave us an example of a time when he was assigned a story on transcendental meditation. Turns out he was g iven the class so he could learn about more. He was skeptical but he was raised a baptsist. He just wanted to report on it. Turns out that at one point, he remote viewed , and drew out a floor plan of what he thought was the headquarters of that place. Well, he ended up being wrong. He gave them the drawing and forgot about it. Later on, he found out that they did move to a bigger location and his drawing was exactly the same.
JM gave us an example of where a group of people got some remote viewers together and examined the 1940s UFO Crash in Aztec, NM. In particular, the remote viewer told a story of a ship that crashed. Military types rushed in and gathered 16 bodies. They tried to communicate with them but could not. The entities were then executed. Welcome to Earth!
JM has written a couple of books. In particular one called Alien Agenda which is one of the top-selling non-fiction books in the UFO genre. You can learn more about Jim at www.jimmarrs.com
Friday, February 25, 2011
Presenter: Linda M Howe
Fort McDowell, Arizona
www.earthfiles.com
Linda Moulton Howe(LMH) has been reporting about these sort of phenomena for a very long time. I think it's quite an honor to finally see her speak. I evern got to take a picture with her. She's a very kind lady and has seen some incredible stuff in her lifetime. One area that she's done a lot of investigation into has been Animal Mutilation. You can google or youtube her name and listen to a TON of cases where sheriffs, farmers , what-have-you all tell you about how nothing human could have caused these things.
Today, she's going to talk to us about the experiences at RAF Bentwaters in the United Kingdom. This is an event where, on an American Military base, in the UK several US soldiers personally observed some sort of craft scanning the area. By the way, this was a Nuclear Facility that housed Nuclear Missiles. Someone spotted lights and they sent a patrol out to investigate. The investigating head officer in command, took a notepad and a tape recorder with him. Arriving at the scene, they found a triangular , small-sized craft that was just hovering in one spot and did not move when the men approached it. The officer took notes and drew his version of some symbols that were on the side of this craft. Needless to say, this story ended up becoming a pretty big deal but only years later after these guys decided to come out with their experiences.
LMH is introducing now a couple of the guys who have come forward with their experiences. The two were John Burroughs and James Penniston, both soldiers at the time of the 1984 encounter(s). I use multiple because they had more than one encounter. LMH took John back to the UK some thirty years later to help him remember the details of the incident. You see, he was not able to remember the ENTIRE episode. Another part of this return was to also do a hypnotic regression with John in hope that he'll be able to remember everything that happened. She showed us a video of him recounting what happened on the scene with a video camera taping what he had to say.
He basically said he and his peers were really freaked out when they saw this thing and wanted to get the heck out of there. They even called in the thing a UFO over the radio back to the other people at the base. They realized this was a mistake because they were weird lights they could not explain. Remember, these guys first saw the weird lights BEFORE they saw the triangle.
There was another soldier, Col James Halt who was involved as well. Without going into all of the details, the three of them went back the second night because they "felt" they needed to. Col Halt, after that night believed this whole thing to be a "Desperate genetic mission" of these light-based life forms.
After this second night, some other soldiers saw another light. In short, this light DISABLED the nukes there. The crazy thing here is this is a common theme as I have mentioned in other posts from this conference. LMH played a series of audio and videos that proved her case. A few of the videos were of the soldiers recounting that night under hypnosis. It was obvious they were very scared during the experience. Burroughs was actually abducted and he and his partner lost radio contact for 45 minutes while their peers at the base saw nothing but a series of various-colored lights jumping around the area they had been located in.
It turns out that James Penniston, when he touched the triangle craft at one point, had a flow of binary- 1s and 0s flow into his head all at once very quickly. Under hypnosis, he "translated" what the message meant. Apparently, this contact was actually from US, human beings. Us, from 40,000 years in the future needed something to do with Chromosomes. However, they did not want to have anything to do with Penniston. It's just that when they approached the craft and touched the symbols, he activated the binary code. The ship was apparently repairing itself and needed a place to do that. To me, this explains why the ship just sat there as they approached it. It was repairing itself.
Penniston later wrote the binary code down on paper to sort of get it out his head. The code has since then been decoded. It starts off with "exploration of humanity three times and some number". The crazy thing is they were able to decipher that this code ended up being a location coordinate to the original location where they found this craft. So basically, this ship seems to have been sent here to explore us and advance civilization.
Jim Penniston got up on stage and someone asked him what it was like dealing with the code in his head. He said "The next day, I thought I could actually write all of it down so I did and 13 pages later there it was. Afterward, I felt 500% better. I didn't dare tell anyone that I had that stuff in my head as I didn't want to lose my job. "
All in all, I can tell very clearly that LMH is, at heart, a true journalist. She is very thorough with the presentation of the information. She's also REALLY good at piecing this whole messy story together and I have really enjoyed this recounting and appreciate her hard work in bringing this to me.
www.earthfiles.com
Today, she's going to talk to us about the experiences at RAF Bentwaters in the United Kingdom. This is an event where, on an American Military base, in the UK several US soldiers personally observed some sort of craft scanning the area. By the way, this was a Nuclear Facility that housed Nuclear Missiles. Someone spotted lights and they sent a patrol out to investigate. The investigating head officer in command, took a notepad and a tape recorder with him. Arriving at the scene, they found a triangular , small-sized craft that was just hovering in one spot and did not move when the men approached it. The officer took notes and drew his version of some symbols that were on the side of this craft. Needless to say, this story ended up becoming a pretty big deal but only years later after these guys decided to come out with their experiences.
LMH is introducing now a couple of the guys who have come forward with their experiences. The two were John Burroughs and James Penniston, both soldiers at the time of the 1984 encounter(s). I use multiple because they had more than one encounter. LMH took John back to the UK some thirty years later to help him remember the details of the incident. You see, he was not able to remember the ENTIRE episode. Another part of this return was to also do a hypnotic regression with John in hope that he'll be able to remember everything that happened. She showed us a video of him recounting what happened on the scene with a video camera taping what he had to say.
He basically said he and his peers were really freaked out when they saw this thing and wanted to get the heck out of there. They even called in the thing a UFO over the radio back to the other people at the base. They realized this was a mistake because they were weird lights they could not explain. Remember, these guys first saw the weird lights BEFORE they saw the triangle.
There was another soldier, Col James Halt who was involved as well. Without going into all of the details, the three of them went back the second night because they "felt" they needed to. Col Halt, after that night believed this whole thing to be a "Desperate genetic mission" of these light-based life forms.
After this second night, some other soldiers saw another light. In short, this light DISABLED the nukes there. The crazy thing here is this is a common theme as I have mentioned in other posts from this conference. LMH played a series of audio and videos that proved her case. A few of the videos were of the soldiers recounting that night under hypnosis. It was obvious they were very scared during the experience. Burroughs was actually abducted and he and his partner lost radio contact for 45 minutes while their peers at the base saw nothing but a series of various-colored lights jumping around the area they had been located in.
It turns out that James Penniston, when he touched the triangle craft at one point, had a flow of binary- 1s and 0s flow into his head all at once very quickly. Under hypnosis, he "translated" what the message meant. Apparently, this contact was actually from US, human beings. Us, from 40,000 years in the future needed something to do with Chromosomes. However, they did not want to have anything to do with Penniston. It's just that when they approached the craft and touched the symbols, he activated the binary code. The ship was apparently repairing itself and needed a place to do that. To me, this explains why the ship just sat there as they approached it. It was repairing itself.
Penniston later wrote the binary code down on paper to sort of get it out his head. The code has since then been decoded. It starts off with "exploration of humanity three times and some number". The crazy thing is they were able to decipher that this code ended up being a location coordinate to the original location where they found this craft. So basically, this ship seems to have been sent here to explore us and advance civilization.
Jim Penniston got up on stage and someone asked him what it was like dealing with the code in his head. He said "The next day, I thought I could actually write all of it down so I did and 13 pages later there it was. Afterward, I felt 500% better. I didn't dare tell anyone that I had that stuff in my head as I didn't want to lose my job. "
All in all, I can tell very clearly that LMH is, at heart, a true journalist. She is very thorough with the presentation of the information. She's also REALLY good at piecing this whole messy story together and I have really enjoyed this recounting and appreciate her hard work in bringing this to me.
Presenter: Nancy Talbot
Fort McDowell, Arizona
bltresearch.com.
Nancy Talbot(NT) talks a lot about the science of Crop Circle. Today she will be talking about the evolution of this area. So it's not all hard data but rather about the experiences of Robert Van de Broeke from Holland. He has proven an ability to be able to predict where Crop Circles would show up. Not ALL but some.
His story, basically, is that a ball of light showed up at the balcony. When it disappeared a pile of white powder was left and there were burn marks left in the area generally. BLT did a scientific research of the powder and showed us the data.
NT told us about a story when she was visiting with RVB and the father yelled and saw a flash of light in the back garden. This ended up becoming a normal occurrence. The three of them turned off the lights then watched the lights. NT felt some sort of electrical shock around her waist up to her neck. She got scared. Before she was able to run away, an incredible light show appeared in front of them. These lights all showed up like blobs jumping back and forth. Stopping and starting… the tingling would start again and would get way too strong and as soon as she wanted to get out of there, the light show would start again. This was basically her intro to stuff that goes on around Robert.
So NT went to the place where this light show happened to investigate it. She was standing next to a tree and suddenly the camera by itself the camera took a picture of a particular thing on its own then rewound itself. She showed us the pic and it looked like a white blob of plastic.
She then showed us a series of Crop Circle pictures and described the various types of CCs. The classifications, if you will. She showed is that there were also CCs in snow! RVB actually predicted where that series of Snow Circles occurred.
NT explained to us how difficult it is to make a Crop Circle with boards and planks.
She also showed us some pics of Snow Circles that RVB predicted. She also showed that when the Snow melted , that the rings were still there in the grass. They didn't find any sort of chemicals at all. They pulled the grasses and did samples. Her company, BLT Research does nothing but take CC samples and scientifically analyze them. The results were the same as the others. The results essentially showed that where the nodes and expulsion cavities existed, they had been bent by some technology that created a massive amount of heat that caused them to bend. HIGH HEAT not possible by humans to do in such a short amount of time AND in snow without it melting.
NT then explained to us one occurrence of a time when RVB became very anxious and believed that one of the CCs were going to appear again. He then drew a picture of what he thought the CC would like. He drew one big circle and four small circles around that one. He was off by one small circle. It turns out that some time later the fourth circle was ADDED to the original and tests confirmed the plants of that fourth circle were indeed created by that sort of HEAT as mentioned before.
She gave us an example where RVB took NT and his Mom out to a field where he believed another circle was going to occur. While standing there a light appeared, engulfed him, then he disappeared. He re-appeared in a different location and where he was originally standing, there was that same white powder. By the way, the white powder, they found out, is called Hydromagnesite.
On another occasion, he took more family members with him where he thought another circle would appear. This time they saw an alien. It turned and looked at RVB and a flash of light came out of the alien's eyes and when that happened , Robert felt totally known. And of course, the white powder was left behind.
NT showed us several photos that RVB took and there were strange light anomalies in them. They were basically light blobs on top of these pictures. There were also light stripes that when the pictures were taken, were not present. However, afterward, they DID appear in the photos. This was wild because she showed so many of these pictures with these anomalies. She said on the website that there are MANY more. The lights were of different shapes, sizes, colors, and going in different directions.
Now if this wasn't interesting enough then it gets even more wild. In 2005, RVB and NT were in his house and they heard a knock on the door. When they opened the door, no one was there. So, since they were taking so many pictures of these weird photograph anomalies they took out the camera and were surprised to find , in the viewfinder of the camera, an image of someone's face. She showed us the picture and it really floored me. The face was not some fuzzy distortion. It was a very clear image of a human's face.
RVB told NT at another point that her deceased brother was also going to be paying them a visit. RVB was able to sense when these strange things were going to occur. Sure enough it happened and RVB snapped a whole bunch pf pictures that had, not only the face of her brother, but also weird blue mists and such.
NT, at points, became emotional and I got from that display that she is a very sincere person who really wants the world to know about all of this stuff is indeed real. Personally, I believe she is telling the truth but that's just my own humble opinion. What about you?
UPDATE! Before this presentation, I met Ms. Talbot as she was coming out of the elevator at the hotel. I asked to take a picture with her. Some guy near us was kind enough to take two pictures with my iPhone. The result was something that really shocked me as I discovered it a few days later. Upon inspection of the pictures, I noticed that just above Ms. Talbot's head were 4-5 small light orbs which were blue in color!! The light anomalies did not appear in any other photos and did appear in each of the two pictures that were taken with her. If you don't believe me, see for yourself.
bltresearch.com.
Nancy Talbot(NT) talks a lot about the science of Crop Circle. Today she will be talking about the evolution of this area. So it's not all hard data but rather about the experiences of Robert Van de Broeke from Holland. He has proven an ability to be able to predict where Crop Circles would show up. Not ALL but some.
His story, basically, is that a ball of light showed up at the balcony. When it disappeared a pile of white powder was left and there were burn marks left in the area generally. BLT did a scientific research of the powder and showed us the data.
NT told us about a story when she was visiting with RVB and the father yelled and saw a flash of light in the back garden. This ended up becoming a normal occurrence. The three of them turned off the lights then watched the lights. NT felt some sort of electrical shock around her waist up to her neck. She got scared. Before she was able to run away, an incredible light show appeared in front of them. These lights all showed up like blobs jumping back and forth. Stopping and starting… the tingling would start again and would get way too strong and as soon as she wanted to get out of there, the light show would start again. This was basically her intro to stuff that goes on around Robert.
So NT went to the place where this light show happened to investigate it. She was standing next to a tree and suddenly the camera by itself the camera took a picture of a particular thing on its own then rewound itself. She showed us the pic and it looked like a white blob of plastic.
She then showed us a series of Crop Circle pictures and described the various types of CCs. The classifications, if you will. She showed is that there were also CCs in snow! RVB actually predicted where that series of Snow Circles occurred.
NT explained to us how difficult it is to make a Crop Circle with boards and planks.
She also showed us some pics of Snow Circles that RVB predicted. She also showed that when the Snow melted , that the rings were still there in the grass. They didn't find any sort of chemicals at all. They pulled the grasses and did samples. Her company, BLT Research does nothing but take CC samples and scientifically analyze them. The results were the same as the others. The results essentially showed that where the nodes and expulsion cavities existed, they had been bent by some technology that created a massive amount of heat that caused them to bend. HIGH HEAT not possible by humans to do in such a short amount of time AND in snow without it melting.
NT then explained to us one occurrence of a time when RVB became very anxious and believed that one of the CCs were going to appear again. He then drew a picture of what he thought the CC would like. He drew one big circle and four small circles around that one. He was off by one small circle. It turns out that some time later the fourth circle was ADDED to the original and tests confirmed the plants of that fourth circle were indeed created by that sort of HEAT as mentioned before.
She gave us an example where RVB took NT and his Mom out to a field where he believed another circle was going to occur. While standing there a light appeared, engulfed him, then he disappeared. He re-appeared in a different location and where he was originally standing, there was that same white powder. By the way, the white powder, they found out, is called Hydromagnesite.
On another occasion, he took more family members with him where he thought another circle would appear. This time they saw an alien. It turned and looked at RVB and a flash of light came out of the alien's eyes and when that happened , Robert felt totally known. And of course, the white powder was left behind.
NT showed us several photos that RVB took and there were strange light anomalies in them. They were basically light blobs on top of these pictures. There were also light stripes that when the pictures were taken, were not present. However, afterward, they DID appear in the photos. This was wild because she showed so many of these pictures with these anomalies. She said on the website that there are MANY more. The lights were of different shapes, sizes, colors, and going in different directions.
Now if this wasn't interesting enough then it gets even more wild. In 2005, RVB and NT were in his house and they heard a knock on the door. When they opened the door, no one was there. So, since they were taking so many pictures of these weird photograph anomalies they took out the camera and were surprised to find , in the viewfinder of the camera, an image of someone's face. She showed us the picture and it really floored me. The face was not some fuzzy distortion. It was a very clear image of a human's face.
RVB told NT at another point that her deceased brother was also going to be paying them a visit. RVB was able to sense when these strange things were going to occur. Sure enough it happened and RVB snapped a whole bunch pf pictures that had, not only the face of her brother, but also weird blue mists and such.
NT, at points, became emotional and I got from that display that she is a very sincere person who really wants the world to know about all of this stuff is indeed real. Personally, I believe she is telling the truth but that's just my own humble opinion. What about you?
UPDATE! Before this presentation, I met Ms. Talbot as she was coming out of the elevator at the hotel. I asked to take a picture with her. Some guy near us was kind enough to take two pictures with my iPhone. The result was something that really shocked me as I discovered it a few days later. Upon inspection of the pictures, I noticed that just above Ms. Talbot's head were 4-5 small light orbs which were blue in color!! The light anomalies did not appear in any other photos and did appear in each of the two pictures that were taken with her. If you don't believe me, see for yourself.
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| Both pics are blurry but you can still see the Orbs. |
Presenter: Richard Dolan
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Richard Dolan(RD) is going to talk to us about what the world might be like after the whole topic of UFOs is out in the open. This is an awesome topic because it's going to make us question what we believe GOD and the Universe is made of and where it came from. RD is obviously very intelligent, well spoken, and you can tell he thinks through things all the way. He uses examples from human history. I think that's really nice.
The first topic, he showed an extensive list of Cover-up memos and such (similar to wiki-leaks) where the government obviously was discussing the topic of UFOs. He even gave examples of where a General officially said that it is "real, not visionary or fictitious". I find this amazing yet people still tend to not take this one man's word for it.
He shows where UFOs showed up and shut down nuclear missile silos. Of course we the people don't hear about this stuff unless its through these types of sources. Additionally, this is the third presenter who talks about this. He also talked about the encounter in Tehran, Iran where a pilot confronted and tried to fire a missile at the UFO but to only find that the missile systems were completely shut down. Then the UFO took off at break-neck speeds. This happened in the 70s when there wasn't (and still isn't ) the technology to travel at those speeds. A quote from a modern-day pilot is "This blue-ish object came down at an 80 degree angle then stop!. Then the blue-ish object shot away at speeds that outclassed the F-16 by many times". What was even more odd is that this object did not exist on the radar.
In 2008, in Stephenville, TX, many people saw an object that "was big enough for us to land an entire fleet of jets on top of it". The AirForce in that area , at first did not lay claim to this sighting but then did claim they were running exercises. This happens time and time again where the military doesn't really know what to do. The odd thing about this is that the government has shown in the past the ability to be able to , on a drop of a dime, show up out of nowhere and take over scenarios. Even George Filer , another presenter at this conference, gave an example of this. And these people who showed up, by the way, were from Wright-Patterson AFB.
So this brings into question that despite the fact that the AirForce may seem to flip flop, there are most definitely very organized areas in the military/govt that deal with this. And, it seems, that this topic is as classified as the H-bomb.
RD gave more examples of some very influential people who had direct involvement with UFOs. Soem of them were Wilbert Smith, Robert Sarbacher, Dr. Eric Walker. These people were involved with high level military & civilian positions.
Another example is about Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson. Edgar Mitchell(and a few others I didn't catch) met with the Admiral to discuss the topic of Deep Black (black projects) that involved UFOs in hopes that it would be brought out a bit more. RD did an interview and surprised him and told the admiral about the topic and how he had confirmation about some of his involvement. The Admiral then very quickly hung up on him. RD said it was very obvious he was involved in these programs to some degree but could not really say anything about it. RD is talking pretty quickly here so I may be missing a few details but you are definitely getting the point!
He, like Robert Dean yesterday brought up the FACT that the government, many years before, has "lost" BILLIONS of dollars. Vanished is not really the word here. We KNOW that it didn't vanish and the govt has the audacity that we would believe it just disappeared. RD did mention that the financial systems are sort of a discombobulated mess and that it only makes sense that money COULD go away but not at this level. The problem with this is later, the pentagon got the "missing money" amount down to zero. ZERO! Really? It's like a kid who gets Fs in school and then all of a sudden gets an "A". Kathryn Austin Fitz is a very good writer of whose work you can learn about the topic of black budget. He recommends her writings. He also recommends to check out Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins.
He says that it doesn't end here. Black Projects are nested one within another and it's not easy at all to figure out. He called it a Byzantine-structure that is hard-to-understand.
So the question is, who is on control? The president's job is not really to know everything. His job is very busy and to be informed on everything that happens just is not a reality. And by the way, this isn't happen-stance. There are people who are put in that . Ie; David Rockefeller. Since around FORD, DR gives a nod and the guy gets in.
He goes into a treatice on the Iraq War where we send in our troops, give up their lives, lay waste, only to have a fire sale of the Iraqi oil selling it off to Malaysian Big Oil Interests. Again, he mentions to read the aforementioned John PErkinds book.
Then he goes into WHY the whole middle east changes are happening now. It's all because of Wiki-Leaks. One idea gave way to massive , FAST change. He gave examples through history how fast changes occurred as in the French Revolution.
So in UFO Disclosure, this is the way it has to happen. But this is a multi-layer process because of all the "entities" involved. He says Hstory does not stand still. Truth is an irrestible force and he thinks Disclosure will be by way of a mojor sighting of some sort like Stephenville, TX or even in Phoenix, AZ.
It could also happen by way of Public Confessions, Declassified documents, a new cras occurs and somebody else gets there first, civilian lab ontains artifact or wreckage, or public confessions. As of now there are very many credible people out there talking about it but they are all talking to different groups. So to me all of this is going on all at the same time. The undercurrent is there and it seems RD is trying to say that we need one more catalyst in the mix to make it all blow up.
So how would civiliation deal with this if it were to happen? First and foremost will be SPIN. Things like "We are not alone", "Relations are peaceful", "No need to panic", "Let's go nice and slowly". So there will definitely be a paradigm shift. Personally, I think a lot of people will completely freak out. So, they want you to be a little afraid but not to the point of mass-panic.
Then next question then is how much disclosure will happen? Full disclosure is a pipe dream. A massive dump of information to the masses will never happen just simply because of the level of discombobulation of the nested black departments that exist now. There are just thousands upon thousands of photos, sightings, various evidence, etc.
So there will either be a partial disclosure or a deceptive disclosure. Partial gives a chance for them to still be able to stall and gain SPIN CONTROL. There's no way that the govt will allow this to get out of control if they can help it. The public will demand images but they most definitely will not show them. All of this will have to come from the people maybe? It's going to be a very difficult situation obviously because people will WANT/REQUIRE evidence but will it be given?
RD gave a great quote. He said "Disclosure is not the end of anything. It's the beginning of everything. ".
So then the questions from the masses will begin which will be very impossible for the public to understand. People will want to know WHERE WERE YOU during this time if you knew it existed. Not only that but where is the technology that you might have gotten. What is the structure of the UFO Secrecy? Also, what about the people being abducted? Why? How? And why were they totally traumatized?
So knowing that UFO Disclosure is going to be a battle STALLING will be the biggest challenge of the higher ups as they will NOT want to reveal the truth to the public.
There are even more quesitons that come to rise here so the question, in MY MIND, is are we EVER going to be ready for something like this? I can't say. Are you?
For more information Google "Richard Dolan, After Disclosure"
Richard Dolan(RD) is going to talk to us about what the world might be like after the whole topic of UFOs is out in the open. This is an awesome topic because it's going to make us question what we believe GOD and the Universe is made of and where it came from. RD is obviously very intelligent, well spoken, and you can tell he thinks through things all the way. He uses examples from human history. I think that's really nice.
The first topic, he showed an extensive list of Cover-up memos and such (similar to wiki-leaks) where the government obviously was discussing the topic of UFOs. He even gave examples of where a General officially said that it is "real, not visionary or fictitious". I find this amazing yet people still tend to not take this one man's word for it.
He shows where UFOs showed up and shut down nuclear missile silos. Of course we the people don't hear about this stuff unless its through these types of sources. Additionally, this is the third presenter who talks about this. He also talked about the encounter in Tehran, Iran where a pilot confronted and tried to fire a missile at the UFO but to only find that the missile systems were completely shut down. Then the UFO took off at break-neck speeds. This happened in the 70s when there wasn't (and still isn't ) the technology to travel at those speeds. A quote from a modern-day pilot is "This blue-ish object came down at an 80 degree angle then stop!. Then the blue-ish object shot away at speeds that outclassed the F-16 by many times". What was even more odd is that this object did not exist on the radar.
In 2008, in Stephenville, TX, many people saw an object that "was big enough for us to land an entire fleet of jets on top of it". The AirForce in that area , at first did not lay claim to this sighting but then did claim they were running exercises. This happens time and time again where the military doesn't really know what to do. The odd thing about this is that the government has shown in the past the ability to be able to , on a drop of a dime, show up out of nowhere and take over scenarios. Even George Filer , another presenter at this conference, gave an example of this. And these people who showed up, by the way, were from Wright-Patterson AFB.
So this brings into question that despite the fact that the AirForce may seem to flip flop, there are most definitely very organized areas in the military/govt that deal with this. And, it seems, that this topic is as classified as the H-bomb.
RD gave more examples of some very influential people who had direct involvement with UFOs. Soem of them were Wilbert Smith, Robert Sarbacher, Dr. Eric Walker. These people were involved with high level military & civilian positions.
Another example is about Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson. Edgar Mitchell(and a few others I didn't catch) met with the Admiral to discuss the topic of Deep Black (black projects) that involved UFOs in hopes that it would be brought out a bit more. RD did an interview and surprised him and told the admiral about the topic and how he had confirmation about some of his involvement. The Admiral then very quickly hung up on him. RD said it was very obvious he was involved in these programs to some degree but could not really say anything about it. RD is talking pretty quickly here so I may be missing a few details but you are definitely getting the point!
He, like Robert Dean yesterday brought up the FACT that the government, many years before, has "lost" BILLIONS of dollars. Vanished is not really the word here. We KNOW that it didn't vanish and the govt has the audacity that we would believe it just disappeared. RD did mention that the financial systems are sort of a discombobulated mess and that it only makes sense that money COULD go away but not at this level. The problem with this is later, the pentagon got the "missing money" amount down to zero. ZERO! Really? It's like a kid who gets Fs in school and then all of a sudden gets an "A". Kathryn Austin Fitz is a very good writer of whose work you can learn about the topic of black budget. He recommends her writings. He also recommends to check out Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins.
He says that it doesn't end here. Black Projects are nested one within another and it's not easy at all to figure out. He called it a Byzantine-structure that is hard-to-understand.
So the question is, who is on control? The president's job is not really to know everything. His job is very busy and to be informed on everything that happens just is not a reality. And by the way, this isn't happen-stance. There are people who are put in that . Ie; David Rockefeller. Since around FORD, DR gives a nod and the guy gets in.
He goes into a treatice on the Iraq War where we send in our troops, give up their lives, lay waste, only to have a fire sale of the Iraqi oil selling it off to Malaysian Big Oil Interests. Again, he mentions to read the aforementioned John PErkinds book.
Then he goes into WHY the whole middle east changes are happening now. It's all because of Wiki-Leaks. One idea gave way to massive , FAST change. He gave examples through history how fast changes occurred as in the French Revolution.
So in UFO Disclosure, this is the way it has to happen. But this is a multi-layer process because of all the "entities" involved. He says Hstory does not stand still. Truth is an irrestible force and he thinks Disclosure will be by way of a mojor sighting of some sort like Stephenville, TX or even in Phoenix, AZ.
It could also happen by way of Public Confessions, Declassified documents, a new cras occurs and somebody else gets there first, civilian lab ontains artifact or wreckage, or public confessions. As of now there are very many credible people out there talking about it but they are all talking to different groups. So to me all of this is going on all at the same time. The undercurrent is there and it seems RD is trying to say that we need one more catalyst in the mix to make it all blow up.
So how would civiliation deal with this if it were to happen? First and foremost will be SPIN. Things like "We are not alone", "Relations are peaceful", "No need to panic", "Let's go nice and slowly". So there will definitely be a paradigm shift. Personally, I think a lot of people will completely freak out. So, they want you to be a little afraid but not to the point of mass-panic.
Then next question then is how much disclosure will happen? Full disclosure is a pipe dream. A massive dump of information to the masses will never happen just simply because of the level of discombobulation of the nested black departments that exist now. There are just thousands upon thousands of photos, sightings, various evidence, etc.
So there will either be a partial disclosure or a deceptive disclosure. Partial gives a chance for them to still be able to stall and gain SPIN CONTROL. There's no way that the govt will allow this to get out of control if they can help it. The public will demand images but they most definitely will not show them. All of this will have to come from the people maybe? It's going to be a very difficult situation obviously because people will WANT/REQUIRE evidence but will it be given?
RD gave a great quote. He said "Disclosure is not the end of anything. It's the beginning of everything. ".
So then the questions from the masses will begin which will be very impossible for the public to understand. People will want to know WHERE WERE YOU during this time if you knew it existed. Not only that but where is the technology that you might have gotten. What is the structure of the UFO Secrecy? Also, what about the people being abducted? Why? How? And why were they totally traumatized?
So knowing that UFO Disclosure is going to be a battle STALLING will be the biggest challenge of the higher ups as they will NOT want to reveal the truth to the public.
There are even more quesitons that come to rise here so the question, in MY MIND, is are we EVER going to be ready for something like this? I can't say. Are you?
For more information Google "Richard Dolan, After Disclosure"
Presenter: George Filer
Fort McDowell, Arizona
Goerge Filer(GF) You can see more on his website
GF is a retired pilot from the Air Force. At the beginning of the presentation, he showed some old photos from his childhood where he would regularly see UFOs.
As he got older, he had some incredible adventures in the AF where he even got to go to Greece. While there once, he saw a UFO, while in flight and it toyed with them.
Next, he was assigned to England. There, the command base saw some blips on the radar. His team went towards it and it went MANY times faster than any craft at that time was able to fly.
Another time, they saw a ship directly on top of stonehenge that was about 1 mile in length. Then they approached, they saw it go straight up into space. We humans don't have the ability to make anything one mile in length. And this is not the first time I've heard of a craft of this type.
Even though he saw what he saw, he still doubted it. This is typical of many people including the one sighting that I had in my lifetime. While in the UK, he was asked to meet with Prince Phillip. They spoke at length about what they saw above stonehenge. GF asked Prince Phillip why he was interested in them. PF said his uncle saw one in India. GF said despite even his own doubt, "I believe Prince Phillip".
From the UK, he was transferred to Langley, VA. While there, Cuban Missle crisis was going on and he was flying at tanker. At that time, they needed a top secret courier. His job was to go between TAC COM and DC , to report directly to General LaMay. GF would get info that he would have to walk right back and tell General Sweeny the same info. Their directive was if An example of one of his orders if any of ours was to get shot down, we had to go in and retaliate. One example was where a ship was shot down and one of our guys went out , an F1 retaliated. He shot a missle , direct hit at a UFO, and the UFO Still came back at it. The F1 was shot down. GF says that other AFs around the world claim that they've also been shot down trying to attack a UFO.
He was placed in charge of briefing Generals of anything that may have to do with UFOs. GF gave one example after the next of how the government was always aware of these flying anonalies throughout our air space. So whether you choose to believe or not, GF, who was there, saw it is very real.
I have to say that after hearing him and seeing his photos that I am left with a sense of frustration. Not because of HIM, mind you! It's just that being from a conservative part of the country, if I tell someone that a higher-up in the AirForce disseminated information about UFOs throughout the the AirForce, I get a glazed over look. People tell me "I need to see it for myself. " "Someone else telling me isn't good enough". Wake up people! What if your mother told you that a UFO was real? Would you believe her? We need to stop just immediately assuming that this stuff is not at all real and at least look at what all these people are saying. And I have say that while being at this UFO conference that I have only met a very small percentage of people who have that "looney" aura about them. And even then, they weren't THAT overboard. They didn't seem any more than a hippie or something. There were TWO guys who were a bit whacky-looking but the majority of the people were very normal people who just wanted to know more about this topic. Just like myself.
If you're reading this, I BEG you... please open your mind and look at some of this information. Think of it as something with a good entertainment value. It's a very personal journey. Please take at least one step instead of shucking this off as totally non-existent.
Goerge Filer(GF) You can see more on his website
GF is a retired pilot from the Air Force. At the beginning of the presentation, he showed some old photos from his childhood where he would regularly see UFOs.
As he got older, he had some incredible adventures in the AF where he even got to go to Greece. While there once, he saw a UFO, while in flight and it toyed with them.
Next, he was assigned to England. There, the command base saw some blips on the radar. His team went towards it and it went MANY times faster than any craft at that time was able to fly.
Another time, they saw a ship directly on top of stonehenge that was about 1 mile in length. Then they approached, they saw it go straight up into space. We humans don't have the ability to make anything one mile in length. And this is not the first time I've heard of a craft of this type.
Even though he saw what he saw, he still doubted it. This is typical of many people including the one sighting that I had in my lifetime. While in the UK, he was asked to meet with Prince Phillip. They spoke at length about what they saw above stonehenge. GF asked Prince Phillip why he was interested in them. PF said his uncle saw one in India. GF said despite even his own doubt, "I believe Prince Phillip".
From the UK, he was transferred to Langley, VA. While there, Cuban Missle crisis was going on and he was flying at tanker. At that time, they needed a top secret courier. His job was to go between TAC COM and DC , to report directly to General LaMay. GF would get info that he would have to walk right back and tell General Sweeny the same info. Their directive was if An example of one of his orders if any of ours was to get shot down, we had to go in and retaliate. One example was where a ship was shot down and one of our guys went out , an F1 retaliated. He shot a missle , direct hit at a UFO, and the UFO Still came back at it. The F1 was shot down. GF says that other AFs around the world claim that they've also been shot down trying to attack a UFO.
He was placed in charge of briefing Generals of anything that may have to do with UFOs. GF gave one example after the next of how the government was always aware of these flying anonalies throughout our air space. So whether you choose to believe or not, GF, who was there, saw it is very real.
I have to say that after hearing him and seeing his photos that I am left with a sense of frustration. Not because of HIM, mind you! It's just that being from a conservative part of the country, if I tell someone that a higher-up in the AirForce disseminated information about UFOs throughout the the AirForce, I get a glazed over look. People tell me "I need to see it for myself. " "Someone else telling me isn't good enough". Wake up people! What if your mother told you that a UFO was real? Would you believe her? We need to stop just immediately assuming that this stuff is not at all real and at least look at what all these people are saying. And I have say that while being at this UFO conference that I have only met a very small percentage of people who have that "looney" aura about them. And even then, they weren't THAT overboard. They didn't seem any more than a hippie or something. There were TWO guys who were a bit whacky-looking but the majority of the people were very normal people who just wanted to know more about this topic. Just like myself.
If you're reading this, I BEG you... please open your mind and look at some of this information. Think of it as something with a good entertainment value. It's a very personal journey. Please take at least one step instead of shucking this off as totally non-existent.
Thursday, February 24, 2011
Presenter: Stan Romanek
--Fort McDowell, Arizona
I've written a post already on Stan so I don't have to go into the details on Stan. I can say that I met Stan and his wife Lisa earlier today and they are definitely nice, genuine people. Lisa will be coming out with a book soon and it will be nice to know her side of the story. Although Stan does a great job at talking about his experiences with full detail, there is an element missing to his story. That element would be the element of FEAR. What is it that they're going through when this stuff happens? I know there have been times when my alarm has gone off and I was totally freaking out. I believe Lisa will do a great job of detailing the emotional side of these experience.s I can't wait for her book.
Stan started the conference with a story about where UFO came down and de-activated a missile. He then went over many of the things that were in his first book. The problem ended up being that he has also lumped all of the new things onto his presentation that he was a bit hurried to get through everything.
Without going into the whole story now, I'm going to just say that Stan was used to create hybrid children on a regular basis. I recommend you read the book called MESSAGES for the whole story.
The truly unique thing about Stan's case is the amount of evidence. He has many pictures of everything , from the beginning, which he is happy to show anyone who wants to see them. And even though were able to see some of it , there was a lot that he had to skip in order to finish on time.
The first half of Stan's speech is about what happened from the beginning of his ordeal. And while this is EXCELLENT information to hear, he's trying to cram in the old events with the new events and it's quite unfortunate that he's not able to play all of the media/evidence in his case. He had to skip over some cool videos, audio recordings and such because he simply did not have enough time to show it to us. After speaking with Lisa on this she said he would need at least a WEEK to get it all in. This is why I sincerely wish he wish I could see only the stuff from now and not so much the stuff from earlier. I do certainly understand that he wants to introduce his story to new people however I wonder if it could be possible for him to re-vamp his presentation to be more focused on the now of it. It is possible to tell us the complete story, in a condensed fashion, within certain time restraints. It's such compelling information that I, the viewee, really wanted to experience it too!
He did go into some of the newer stuff briefly, toward the end. What was really nice to see was that he has been doing more of the hypnotic regressions and taping them. He has an entity coming through him who is giving out all sorts of information about humanity and more. Stan told us about one time where the entity was talking and one of the people there had a call come in on the her cell. Stan put his hand up and the phone stopped ringing. He said that he told her that he was sorry that he might have damaged the technology in the phone. The lady was not able to find that phone on her person , where it was located previously. However, she found in one of the bedrooms with other cell phones all lined up next to each other. Amazing.
Personally, I find his case very similar to some of the stuff that Ms. Dolores Cannon write about in her books. Even his testimony from the hypnotic regressions ring close to Dolores' work and I wonder if Stan's path will ever come across the knowledge of her work. I think it would help him in some way.
He's finally coming out with his second book called "Answers". He gave a CD with the first two chapters in ebook format to all of the conference attendees. I'm so looking forward to reading this new information. Stan has teamed up with another NY Times Best Selling author named GW Hardin. Together, the two of them have written those first two chapters and are in the process of making more. If you go to romaneks.com, you can pay a decent price of like $7+ to get the rest of the book, as it comes out in ebook format. I ordered it immediately!
GW Hardin explained that he was called, in part, to help Stan relay the information to the world that this entity has been giving to him. Personally, I find this to be really great. You see, in my opinion, Stan's experience is an evolving process and I, as the lector, want to see more. I remember after having read his first book, Messages, I wanted to know so badly what it was that Grandpa Grey was telling him in the regressions. Stan does a great job show ing us his proof but I dare to say he's a bit worried about how the public might treat him when he sticks his neck out there by way of letting us into his private world of the regressions. Stan's been really brave up until this part. Don't stop now.
Part of his message in the new book, Answers, that comes from the entities in his regressions is about how we as humans need to do better. This refers to the way we treat our planet. It's partly about being at a cross roads and choosing the right path to go down. The entity told him that humans have to learn on their own. We want to have so many rights to be certain ways and if we don't really get our act together, we will end up being very destructive and they would not allow that to happen.
In summary, I don't believe everything I read, see, or hear. And many skeptics out there say that if there's just one hole in anyone's story then that ruins his credibility and anything else that comes out of his mouth is bogus. However, put this to you. What about if just ONE of these stories is true then that's everything isn't it?
If you would like to find out more about Stan's journey, you can do so by visiting his website at stanromanek.com or his site with information about the book romaneks.com.
I've written a post already on Stan so I don't have to go into the details on Stan. I can say that I met Stan and his wife Lisa earlier today and they are definitely nice, genuine people. Lisa will be coming out with a book soon and it will be nice to know her side of the story. Although Stan does a great job at talking about his experiences with full detail, there is an element missing to his story. That element would be the element of FEAR. What is it that they're going through when this stuff happens? I know there have been times when my alarm has gone off and I was totally freaking out. I believe Lisa will do a great job of detailing the emotional side of these experience.s I can't wait for her book.
Stan started the conference with a story about where UFO came down and de-activated a missile. He then went over many of the things that were in his first book. The problem ended up being that he has also lumped all of the new things onto his presentation that he was a bit hurried to get through everything.
Without going into the whole story now, I'm going to just say that Stan was used to create hybrid children on a regular basis. I recommend you read the book called MESSAGES for the whole story.
The truly unique thing about Stan's case is the amount of evidence. He has many pictures of everything , from the beginning, which he is happy to show anyone who wants to see them. And even though were able to see some of it , there was a lot that he had to skip in order to finish on time.
The first half of Stan's speech is about what happened from the beginning of his ordeal. And while this is EXCELLENT information to hear, he's trying to cram in the old events with the new events and it's quite unfortunate that he's not able to play all of the media/evidence in his case. He had to skip over some cool videos, audio recordings and such because he simply did not have enough time to show it to us. After speaking with Lisa on this she said he would need at least a WEEK to get it all in. This is why I sincerely wish he wish I could see only the stuff from now and not so much the stuff from earlier. I do certainly understand that he wants to introduce his story to new people however I wonder if it could be possible for him to re-vamp his presentation to be more focused on the now of it. It is possible to tell us the complete story, in a condensed fashion, within certain time restraints. It's such compelling information that I, the viewee, really wanted to experience it too!
He did go into some of the newer stuff briefly, toward the end. What was really nice to see was that he has been doing more of the hypnotic regressions and taping them. He has an entity coming through him who is giving out all sorts of information about humanity and more. Stan told us about one time where the entity was talking and one of the people there had a call come in on the her cell. Stan put his hand up and the phone stopped ringing. He said that he told her that he was sorry that he might have damaged the technology in the phone. The lady was not able to find that phone on her person , where it was located previously. However, she found in one of the bedrooms with other cell phones all lined up next to each other. Amazing.
Personally, I find his case very similar to some of the stuff that Ms. Dolores Cannon write about in her books. Even his testimony from the hypnotic regressions ring close to Dolores' work and I wonder if Stan's path will ever come across the knowledge of her work. I think it would help him in some way.
He's finally coming out with his second book called "Answers". He gave a CD with the first two chapters in ebook format to all of the conference attendees. I'm so looking forward to reading this new information. Stan has teamed up with another NY Times Best Selling author named GW Hardin. Together, the two of them have written those first two chapters and are in the process of making more. If you go to romaneks.com, you can pay a decent price of like $7+ to get the rest of the book, as it comes out in ebook format. I ordered it immediately!
GW Hardin explained that he was called, in part, to help Stan relay the information to the world that this entity has been giving to him. Personally, I find this to be really great. You see, in my opinion, Stan's experience is an evolving process and I, as the lector, want to see more. I remember after having read his first book, Messages, I wanted to know so badly what it was that Grandpa Grey was telling him in the regressions. Stan does a great job show ing us his proof but I dare to say he's a bit worried about how the public might treat him when he sticks his neck out there by way of letting us into his private world of the regressions. Stan's been really brave up until this part. Don't stop now.
Part of his message in the new book, Answers, that comes from the entities in his regressions is about how we as humans need to do better. This refers to the way we treat our planet. It's partly about being at a cross roads and choosing the right path to go down. The entity told him that humans have to learn on their own. We want to have so many rights to be certain ways and if we don't really get our act together, we will end up being very destructive and they would not allow that to happen.
In summary, I don't believe everything I read, see, or hear. And many skeptics out there say that if there's just one hole in anyone's story then that ruins his credibility and anything else that comes out of his mouth is bogus. However, put this to you. What about if just ONE of these stories is true then that's everything isn't it?
If you would like to find out more about Stan's journey, you can do so by visiting his website at stanromanek.com or his site with information about the book romaneks.com.
Presenter: Kathleen Marden
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Ms. Marden says that even though she knew what happened with them, she wasn't really that interested. However, there came a time when she realized that she needed to help them. She took all of their hypnotic regressions and did comparative analysis. This analysis involved looking at each line of what Barney said versus what Betty said. Kathleen is here today to make sure that we understand exactly what happened to B&B.
The event started when they decided to go on a vacation. On the way back home, near Lancaster. Betty said she saw something in the sky that was brighter than the sky. There were a couple of other times that they saw these lights in the sky on their trip back home from the vacation. In one case, in Fraconia Notch, they saw a huge light pass a mountain they were passing by. The more they traveled, the more they saw the light(s). Betty became more and more excited in seeing this travel companion. At this point, they started to get that it was a craft that was following them. They really got it when the craft pulled in front of them and hanged there in front of their path.
Barney got out of the car and followed the craft. There were windows in the craft and Barney could see them there. He recognized them as non-human and said they had the cold-precision of German soldiers as they moved slowly and efficiently. At this point, he and Betty got back in the car and took off. The craft followed them and then came up very close to the car. All of a sudden, outside became black and they heard these cold, electronic buzzing sounds coming from the trunk. They didn't speak for 30 minutes then the same sounds again. They don't remember much after this but they do remember being stopped by a "construction crew". By the time they got home it was daylight. This was strange because they should have gotten home while it was dark. It was a full two hours later than they anticipated.
A few facts:
-Barney felt a strange itchy feeling in his groin. Later he had 21 growths in his genital area. They were not STDs per a Dr.
-He and Betty felt clammy and strange upon arrival. Barney's shoes had scratches on them. Betty's dress had strange stains on it. They also found some strange spots on their vehicle. And finally, their watches stopped working(for both of them).
B&B drew sketches of what they observed. They also made a report to a local Air Force base. So logically they were curious about UFOs. She found a book and eventually made contact with the author. This letter to the author more or less stated the remembered experience they had. During this time, UFO stories were mainly about the mechanics, not about actual contact. This was written on September 25, 1961 , 5 days after close encounter. She also mentioned that she wanted to find a psychiatrist to use hypnotism. After this encounter, Betty started having dreams/nightmares about her experience. This dream included an abduction. She typed everything out in sequential order.
Eventually, they were referred to Dr. Benjamin Simon, a psychiatrist renowned the world over, in who's who and even ran his own sanitarium. They visited him every Saturday for quite some time. Dr. Simon would hypnotize both of them separately. He wanted to protect them from the intensity of the emotion of the remembered experiences.
What they both need up saying was that they were indeed taken by these entities and had experimental and sexual experiences. Later on, through a violation of confidentially, their story was released to a newspaper in the area. It ran for 4 nights in a row. This was a bad experience for them but they decided to come out and tell the world. The first book about them, The Interrupted Journey, was written at this point.
Some false statements about them are:
-Barney was under undue stress during the abduction and he mistook an aircraft as a UFO.
-Barney & Betty took that trip took de-stress. not true. They went for fun and just to do something.
-Phillip Klass wrote a book saying that Betty's hypnotic regressions were calm as if she was on a Sunday Trip. Ms. Marden played an audio snippet that did not sound calm in the least. It sounded like she was scared out of her wits.
-Dr. Carl Sagan spoke out against them saying that B&B simply wanted children and their delusions of child-like entities was obviously an attempt at that life. This was not true. Betty DID have children in a previous marriage. Dr. Stanton Friedman wrote Sagan back about his inaccuracies pointing out the above facts.
-Dr. Susan Clancy said Betty was a long time believer of UFOs so it wouldn't take much to dream this up. Again, not true. She did not have an interest at all.
-Another false statement was about how Barney scuffed his shoes. Well, if you listen to the audio recording of his regression, you can hear how he talks about being levitated up and how his shoes scraped against rocks as he was floating across the ground to the ship.
This case is important because it was the start of something that has happened repeatedly ever since to people all over the world. This case also shows how people, in particular, the Scientific Community, absolutely will not look at the evidence that exists and give it a discerning eye in the true sense of the word.
Presenter: Robert Dean
I'm here at the conference. So far it's been awesome. I've gotten to meet to people who I've been watching and listening to for quite a while. It's very exciting. I met Stan & Lisa Romanek too! That was a blast. I know he probably thought I was some crazy dude but I literally made a b-line toward when I saw his face.
So it's after 1pm now, on Wednesday, and next up is Sargent Major Robert Dean. He served in the Navy and had the HIGHEST level of Top Secret(Cosmic Top Secret) that anyone could have. And it's because of that level of access, he was exposed to what the government is hiding from the people.
He's been speaking out for over 20 years on this topic. In the process, he's been violating his National Security oath which is a big deal to him. You can tell he's from a military background because he's very direct and set in his way. He says that at his stage of life, he sees a friend die every so often. In one week from today, he will celebrate his 82nd birthday.
He and Wendell Stevens , in 1991, at the first IUFOC came out and began breaking his oath. That's when he first told the world that we are not alone in this world. The human race is a hybrid race. He says that we are a product of more intelligent race that engineered our genome. Not only that, but they are still doing it even to this very day. Coincidentally, we are starting to learn more in genetics by way of help from our friends. In much of the reading I've done on this topic, I've heard this. That the ETs plant ideas into our minds to inspire new thoughts and the direction of our world.
Robert Dean says that we are transcending into a new race. We are in flux, if you will. And in particular, I get the feeling that this is something that is happening NOW. I mean, people have been talking about this topic for quite some time but these days they are all saying the same thing about this transcendence.
Another topic that many people in this field have been talking about is called DISCLOSURE. RD says that people have been talking about this for a very long time and that we might as well hang it up. Disclosure is never going to happen. It's not that there are UFOs , ETs, and ships, and beings popping through portals back and forth. It's not about that. It's that these guys have been here for a very long time. Way before WE HUMANS have been here.
He even went on to give examples of locations where there are bases. Not only that but he said he has never been to a presentation, over the past years, where there wasn't an ET sitting in the room. He says they are everywhere and living amongst us. He said that when look at you and into your eyes, you KNOW. He paraphrased Ingo Swann on this.
He says they are monitoring us and they don't care about what the speakers say. They want to know how the audience reacts to the things the speakers say. They know we are in a transcendence. RD wants us to know that they are not here to take us over. They want us to thrive. It's not like the movies where people should worry about their lives!!
He brought up the Brookings Institute Study. It basically said that humanity is not ready to be informed about the truth os our relationship with the ETs and our link with them and who we really are. He told a story about a young jungle boy who was shown civilization and we returned home to the jungle , he died. He used this as the example of what may happen to the masses. Our "light may burn out".
Basically, Obama is never going to hold a press conference and come out with this stuff. However, He says that disclosure is happening right now via media. He mentioned psycotronic media(if I remember correctly). Dr Rosen(from another presentation) mentioned the same thing. Basically, we can be controlled to be aware and do things they want us to.
RD gave some examples from scientists and other important people like Verner Von Braun. These quotes were all the way from the 50s where these people, even then, were sticking their necks out to say that we are being visited and we are being given information. Contact was made a LONG TIME AGO and they are involved in way more things than we know.
David Fronning(sp?), who worked with an aerospace corp, said "We have had hyper-luminal flight for 30 years". This was in the early 90s. This is huge! Think about this. We can move way out into space and explore. Why don't we know this, as the human race? This type of flight sounds simliar to Bob Lazar's claims about how ships wrap a gravity field around them. Another, David Rich, said that something like a Stark Trek is actually not far from the truth.
RD said that we're not going back to the moon or putting stations on Mars or any of this stuff because IT ALREADY EXISTS. WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT. He gave an example of where in 98, 99, 00 the government said they lost 1.7 trillion dollars each year. He says this money was used to create an entirely separate shadow military that has already put things out into space. He also used another example of a young man in the news recently named Gary McKinnon who hacked into a NASA database and saw information that spoke about ships that are not accounted for in our governmental inventories anywhere. It does exist and it is out there.
RD showed us some photos from NASA and other world NASA-type agencies. He showed a picture of a ship that one of the Apollo astronauts took that was estimated to be 5 miles in length! Could you imagine the size of that? Good God! Most of the pictures were from the older missions. Some were not but most of them were taken by astronauts while in space.
His prize picture was from Voyager I where it was directed through the rings of Saturn. The astronomers saw some anomaly there in the rings. The picture was something the size of our moon, red in color. Many speculate this was a ship.
He showed another picture from space which showed another anomaly from Saturn. Norman Bergman. There they found an electo-magnetic construct(a non-naturally-created vehicle) that was 20 miles long!
He said that there is nothing to be afraid of. Even though we are going to be going through soem bad earth stuff like hurricanes and such. There is a positive future out there.
I have a lot of respect for Lt Col Robert Dean. What you're basically looking at is a person who lived a part of his life that was full of some really incredible stuff and now, in this stage, he's taking the time, in not-so-great health, to tell the world about it. He is dead-set in his beliefs and you can tell that he is a genuine person. What I get is, "It's time to wake up, people! There is a lot more going on out there than you would believe".
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